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Steph L. - Jun 17, 2013 11:40:12 am PDT #22589 of 25497
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Since it was a gift I feel obligated to keep it.

Wasn't the gift a gift card, not the iPad mini? If you had been able to return it to the Apple store and they would have offered a refund, would you have refused the refund because of your obligation? If not, I don't see how selling it would be any different.


Toddson - Jun 17, 2013 11:54:21 am PDT #22590 of 25497
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I wouldn't feel right about returning it. And, as I said, I'm not going to pass the hunk of junk on to anyone.


Steph L. - Jun 17, 2013 11:55:59 am PDT #22591 of 25497
I look more rad than Lutheranism

That's really disappointing for you.


Toddson - Jun 17, 2013 11:58:27 am PDT #22592 of 25497
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Yeah ... it' not like I set my expectations all that high ... and the wretched thing still managed not to meet them.


Steph L. - Jun 17, 2013 12:06:26 pm PDT #22593 of 25497
I look more rad than Lutheranism

That's so weird -- you showed the Apple genius bar person how it was not responding, and he/she said that was normal?


Toddson - Jun 17, 2013 12:12:42 pm PDT #22594 of 25497
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Well, it worked fine for him - it's not an every time occurrance, but it's often enough that it's just not worth the hassle for me.

I had really wanted to be able to read books on it, but the Kindle app kept not opening when I was on the bus. If the Apple "genius" says it's fine, and it worked all right for him, there's officially nothing wrong with it. But if I can't rely on it to work when I want it to, what's the point? If I have to carry a paperback in case the Kindle app won't open, why carry the iPad?


Jon B. - Jun 17, 2013 12:30:10 pm PDT #22595 of 25497
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I would go back to the genius bar and be a little squeakier. Demand a replacement!


Cass - Jun 17, 2013 1:02:27 pm PDT #22596 of 25497
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I am sorry you are having such a frustrating experience, Toddson. And that you feel like you have no valid choices to make it a different kind of experience whether that be replacing it, asking for general operation training at the Genius Bar or selling something that you chose to buy with a gift card and then buying a gift that truly made you happy. But if you feel obliged to keep it and don't find it enjoyable at all to use, it is probably best to put it in the box on the shelf and try to end the frustration at least.


Steph L. - Jun 17, 2013 1:14:17 pm PDT #22597 of 25497
I look more rad than Lutheranism

If I gave someone a generous gift card, I would agree it's their right to use it (or not) as they wish, but I have to admit I would be sad that they didn't even get anything enjoyable with it, but felt like they had to keep something they couldn't use just out of obligation to me. (In other words, if I give you a coffee mug and it breaks, throw the pieces away or give them to someone who will make mosaics with them. But don't keep a broken unusable mug around to collect dust because you think I require you to do so.)

But I obviously don't know your friend or your relationship to him/her, so perhaps keeping something you can't use is exactly how he/she would like the gift to be honored.


Sue - Jun 17, 2013 1:31:06 pm PDT #22598 of 25497
hip deep in pie

I agree with Jon, go back to Apple and demand a replacement.