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Juliebird - Jun 05, 2013 3:23:06 pm PDT #22524 of 25497
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Is there a free Microsoft Publisher program that I can dl and then access a document made with it with the official Publisher? I clicked a link that said it was free, and then it asked me for a registry key, so I don't know what the heck is going on.

I want to make a mock up of a brochure, but might need to do it at home. Just a simple three fold on a standard 8.5x11 that I edit further at work.


Gris - Jun 06, 2013 2:07:56 am PDT #22525 of 25497
Hey. New board.

A quick search for "opensource page layout" found this: [link] and apparently they have a new publisher importer as of May 22. Probably not a complete solution but might do what you need. I may need to check it out myself!


Polgara - Jun 06, 2013 11:21:19 am PDT #22526 of 25497
Karma is a cat, sleeping in my lap cuz it loves me. ~TS

Any CSS experts around? I'm trying to optimize a site for mobile, and I just realized that my @media calls aren't working in IE8. Google tells me IE8 doesn't support @media--of course--but even the javascript file I found that's supposed to fix that (css3-mediaqueries.js) isn't helping. Does anyone know of any other possible fixes before I have to resort to an IE specific stylesheet?


Tom Scola - Jun 06, 2013 11:25:29 am PDT #22527 of 25497
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Using <!--[if IE 8]> is actually less kludgy than the alternatives.


Polgara - Jun 06, 2013 11:30:13 am PDT #22528 of 25497
Karma is a cat, sleeping in my lap cuz it loves me. ~TS

Phoo, I was afraid of that. I hate maintaining the same data in multiple places.

ETA: Thanks!


amych - Jun 06, 2013 11:36:57 am PDT #22529 of 25497
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

OTOH, what mobile devices use IE LTE 8? None. Depending on what changes you need to make (and whether you're building mobile-first or desktop-first), it may be safe to serve IE8 the normal stylesheet; it won't see your queries at all, but there are no mobile devices that need to.


Polgara - Jun 06, 2013 11:46:52 am PDT #22530 of 25497
Karma is a cat, sleeping in my lap cuz it loves me. ~TS

Yeah, that's what I'm figuring. It's still very annoying, though.


amych - Jun 06, 2013 11:55:26 am PDT #22531 of 25497
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

SO annoying.

One other thought -- if you don't want to maintain a separate IE stylesheet, you can still use the conditional comment approach to add a class to your html or body element, then use that as a hook for styling it in your main stylesheet -- something like

t !--[if IE 8]
t html class="ie
t ![endif]--
t !--[if !(IE 7) | !(IE 8) ] t !--
t html


amych - Jun 06, 2013 11:56:08 am PDT #22532 of 25497
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Holy crap that's some messed up quickedit. But you get the idea. It's still hacky, but if you find it easier to keep everything in one stylesheet rather than two, it can help.


Polgara - Jun 06, 2013 11:58:22 am PDT #22533 of 25497
Karma is a cat, sleeping in my lap cuz it loves me. ~TS

My head hurts now. *g* I think I'll stick with the two stylesheets. But thanks for all the suggestions.