Oh, if it is a university, they probably could have you log into a university computer that gets wiped with every login. That might be the best option. have you log in with your credentials and call up the email and have the tech print the original options.
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le nubian - Feb 26, 2013 5:04:23 pm PST #22123 of 25497
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
le nubian - Feb 26, 2013 5:05:39 pm PST #22124 of 25497
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Also, though you suspect nefarious activity (and it may be that it is)...what if the company is incompetent in cutting and pasting?
Cass - Feb 26, 2013 5:56:35 pm PST #22125 of 25497
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
the issue would be if there are copies of the message sitting on any third party servers whose contents can be verified as unaltered, I'm guessing.
Good point.
Oh, if it is a university, they probably could have you log into a university computer that gets wiped with every login. That might be the best option. have you log in with your credentials and call up the email and have the tech print the original options.
Oh, possible. Except I don't know how her email is set up.
Also, though you suspect nefarious activity (and it may be that it is)...what if the company is incompetent in cutting and pasting?
I don't really care if it's nefarious or stupid, so long as they admit that their emails were altered. They can use the, "oops, it was a mistake," line. It is absolutely nefarious but probably just in an ass covering way.
I'll pass on the info. I am asking about her system too.
Cass - Feb 26, 2013 6:02:12 pm PST #22126 of 25497
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
sbcglobal.net that she uses with Mail on her Mac.
Liese S. - Feb 26, 2013 6:06:34 pm PST #22127 of 25497
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."
imap or pop?
Cass - Feb 26, 2013 6:33:28 pm PST #22128 of 25497
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
I don't know and she won't know.
I can take a look next weekend. Probably pop. I'm 85% sure pop.
§ ita § - Feb 26, 2013 6:38:58 pm PST #22129 of 25497
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
How old is the email under question?
Cass - Feb 26, 2013 6:47:17 pm PST #22130 of 25497
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
Less than a year old? It's about my Dad, so May or later.
If the sent items in Mail are not easily manipulated, she can call for a mobile notary to come to the house, log in, verify, print with full headers and stamp. Where's the flaw in this? It seems like the answer so long as you're willing to pay the mobile notary and she totally is.
I mean, that probably won't work if it goes to court but the whole point of this is to avoid that mess.
SuziQ - Feb 26, 2013 6:59:17 pm PST #22131 of 25497
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All a notary can do is sign that you or your mom is stating that the document is an exact copy. The notary does not actually verify the exactness. Think of a deposition, compelling truthfulness, that is what the notary is doing. If it is found to not be an exact copy, then you are liable for purgery.
le nubian - Feb 26, 2013 7:22:08 pm PST #22132 of 25497
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Cass,
echoing Suzi, in my experience with notaries, they can only verify that they saw your license and that you signed a document on a particular date. they can't (usually) do more than that - like certify authenticity.
If you want that step, I would probably see if you can get a certified tech person to take a look at the email and do a statement to the effect that the mail does not seem to be tampered with, etc. A mac specialist probably can do a deep file comparison on the Mail files and also state when the last time was that the file was changed (and perhaps what kind of changes were made).
You might be able to see if someone at the Apple Store can do this for you - and if they would charge a fee if you don't want to do the school/university route. There are probably grad students in Computer Sciences/Engineering who might be able to help (and are certified to work on macs).
FWIW, do you have a Legal Aid near you? You might be able to get some advice from them regarding how to word the letter.