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flea - Jul 22, 2012 4:40:27 pm PDT #20560 of 25501
information libertarian

I have access to a large data set, that's available as a SGML-tagged text file. It's bibliographic citations, tagged, for example, pointy-bracket au Author's Name close pointy bracket au. They set up the tagging standards in the early 1990s, pretty much freehand, so the data is well-structured but does not follow a now-standard format for bibliographic data.

I'd like, ultimately, to get this data into Zotero. I can currently see a couple of ways to go forward: 1) somehow convert the data into an .ris structure (details on what this is: [link] ). Ris is a pretty basic file structure, using many of the same tags as what I've got. Or 2) get it into an even simpler tab-delimited text file, and upload it into EndNote which takes tab-delimited files (Zotero won't), and then export EndNote to Zotero (easy-peasy).

And advice on which would be easier, converting this SGML into .ris or tab-delimited text? Any advice on how I would actually do this? Is it writing a little script? Because I don't know how to do that right now, but I am interested in learning how, and it seems like this might be a first baby-steps project to learning a scripting language. Would anybody like to be my mentor for this?


§ ita § - Jul 23, 2012 5:20:32 am PDT #20561 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Why did iCal get twee? And the address book isn't much better. Is there any way to get (back) away from the more literal visual metaphors? Dammit--what's the word for when the the other visual traits are brought into the design? The leather look, and all that?


Rob - Jul 23, 2012 5:24:52 am PDT #20562 of 25501

Skeuomorphism.


§ ita § - Jul 23, 2012 5:27:57 am PDT #20563 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Bingo. I need to start keeping a list of "words I always forget." That's really near the top of the list.

Somehow, I could not retain the word "antagonist" during high school, which fucked with both Biology and English Lit.

eta: I do remember reading that Steve Jobs was against skeuomorphic design, and that Lion wouldn't have gotten released on his watch. But that doesn't make sense, since he died after it was released. And I remember reading that some of these design elements aren't strictly skeuomorphic, but represented a unification with iOS.

Now I'm wondering if it was talking about Mountain Lion, but I am pretty sure they mentioned the leather on iCal and saying he'd have hated that--wouldn't that have been a decision made when he was still involved?


Rob - Jul 23, 2012 7:50:07 am PDT #20564 of 25501

There's so much skeuomorphic design in Apple software products over the last few years it's hard to believe Steve had a problem with it.


Tom Scola - Jul 23, 2012 8:23:32 am PDT #20565 of 25501
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

flea, do you know what format your original file is? Something more specific than SGML; is it MODS perhaps?


§ ita § - Jul 23, 2012 8:27:23 am PDT #20566 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I am finding the changes to iCal and the address book a bit startling, though. The leather graphic is cheesy and reminds me of wood laminate. Anti-quality. Using a book metaphor where there is one entry per page feels like a waste of space, even though I know it's not--but that's the cost of evoking that visual in that way.


flea - Jul 23, 2012 9:57:09 am PDT #20567 of 25501
information libertarian

I am pretty sure it is not MODS, Tom (but I do know what MODS is, go team me!). I am pretty sure it is "we made it up in 1992." What I have access to is huge .txt files, with hundreds of entries that look like this (replace () with pointy brackets mentally):

(au)von Koppenfels, Werner(/au)
(ti)KATASKOPOS oder der Blick von der Hohe: Ein menippeischer Streifzug(/ti)
(jl)A&A 47(/jl) [Yes, all the journal titles are abbreviated, but find and replace could fix this I guess.]
(yr)2001(/yr)
(pg)1-20(/pg)


flea - Jul 23, 2012 9:59:42 am PDT #20568 of 25501
information libertarian

Ugh, and now that I pasted that I notice they've put the journal volume number and the title in the same field, and they should be different fields, so that is another problem.


le nubian - Jul 23, 2012 10:19:57 am PDT #20569 of 25501
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

ita,

I do not use ical if I can absolutely fucking help it. I use google calendar and Quickcal.

Note: google calendar uglified their page really something awful, so I find I mostly look at my calendar on my iphone/ipad these days. Using Agenda.