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Maria - Dec 01, 2011 1:38:18 pm PST #18706 of 25501
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

I can make calls that don't count against my minutes over Wi Fi,

I am so pissed that T-Mobile is advertising the Amaze and Galaxy S II with UMA calling, but it's not enabled on the phones yet. Supposedly it's being pushed OTA very soon.

That's the one thing I miss about my BlackBerry. Service in my parents' restaurant is non-existent, so I relied on wifi for calls and texts. Now, I got nuthin'.


Polter-Cow - Dec 01, 2011 1:44:20 pm PST #18707 of 25501
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Oh my God, I keep forgetting about WiFi. I have been so annoyed that I don't get 4G inside my office...BUT I CAN TOTALLY USE THE GUEST WIFI.

So I think I need to get that Locale thingy to do that automatically, huh?


§ ita § - Dec 01, 2011 1:54:43 pm PST #18708 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

So I think I need to get that Locale thingy to do that automatically, huh?

Locale is a simpler way to do it, but Gris can pitch Tasker to you, which has more flexibility. I think it also has more precision, but if you don't need to tell separate floors apart at the same address, it's probably just fine for most purposes.


Cass - Dec 01, 2011 2:21:44 pm PST #18709 of 25501
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I think of my smart phone as a mini-computer and both use it as such and expect to have to charge it as such.

I can't compare it to my last, much older phone that could T9 text and vaguely get online if I was really desperate. I didn't use it the same way or as much and the battery life was much longer, but it was apples and oranges.

Probably if I had a long-ish commute, I'd have a car charger though.

What is the difference between sleep and hibernate? I mean, I know that they're different, but...what is the purpose of each?

I really did not check which thread Read New took me to and was a little confuzzled for a while.


Polter-Cow - Dec 01, 2011 2:22:50 pm PST #18710 of 25501
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Tasker also has the ability to turn on GPS when I use Navigation and turn it off when I exit, which is nice.

I don't think I need to use WiFi at home instead of 4G; I have 2 GB a month and haven't come close to using it all so far. But automatically switching to WiFi at work would be really nice.


§ ita § - Dec 01, 2011 2:47:33 pm PST #18711 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Tasker also has the ability to turn on GPS when I use Navigation and turn it off when I exit, which is nice.

Locale does that too. Just with a simpler interface.

I think it'll by my Christmas vacation project to convert over to Tasker.

I can't believe TMobile didn't tell me I didn't use voice minutes when I called over WiFi. Except I totally can. But it's a $0 cost plan addition, so I made it. Booyah! I don't expect to make a sizeable dent in my minutes again between that and Google Voice. Nice and tidy.


brenda m - Dec 01, 2011 5:03:48 pm PST #18712 of 25501
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Wifi in my office is so shitty I don't think about it.

Something I've noticed recently though - a lot of apps block the phone from sleeping. Why? And can I stop that?


brenda m - Dec 01, 2011 5:04:42 pm PST #18713 of 25501
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I definitely lose minutes on wifi calling. Fey.


Liese S. - Dec 01, 2011 9:14:14 pm PST #18714 of 25501
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Hey, so why are standard task killers bad on Android? And how can you know when you exit an application instead of just moving out of it? Like the difference between when Scrabble will notify you if people make moves or when it won't? Lots of applications don't seem to close, so it seems like a task killer would be necessary.


§ ita § - Dec 01, 2011 11:16:23 pm PST #18715 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Android has its own task (management) killer, Liese. Well, it has its own strict application ending rules. When you switch out of an app, it's supposed to suspend to memory anyway, so there's nothing to kill. The OS does a good job of managing how full your RAM is, so killing stuff to save it is pretty pointless.

If you kill processes (which runs all the time), Android usually restarts them anyway, so you don't save anything there, and at worst lose with re-startup overhead. Unless it doesn't, and you break something, because it was a piece of a piece of something that should have been running anyway. It's not as easy as Windows or Unix to tell what should be on or not.

If I have something that feels like it's running in a "bad" state, I restart the phone. Because as noted above, if it's an app, its settings are probably saved anyway, so if something was fucking it up and it looked like it was hanging (but the OS doesn't come back with the Wait/Close/Report option), it generally doesn't make a whit of difference to "kill" it. Because it is effectively the undead.

And, well, uninstalling your task killer (if it's the popular one I used, Advanced Task Killer, anyway) frees up RAM right there, since it's always "running" or actually running--I don't recall which. Still, gets one more app out of your way.

Man, I've been going back and forth with Astrid tech support because of their too many authentication mechanisms and my too many gmail accounts. And also, if you try logging in one way on a device/browser, it gets shirty if you try another one later. I don't like that design. But, help desk was very useful, and I'm back up and running, not just across devices, like before, but also in their web client, which, weirdly, was the troublemaker.