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Polter-Cow - Oct 03, 2011 12:41:41 pm PDT #17986 of 25501
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I have Googled madly for the solution to my issue, and I haven't been able to find a straightforward answer, so I think this may be more complicated than I would have hoped, BUT there must be a way to do it.

I used Outlook Express for ten years. I have ten years' worth of e-mails in .DBX files.

Windows 7 does not support Outlook Express. Instead, it has Windows Live Mail. I may use Windows Live Mail. I may use Thunderbird. People like Thunderbird, right? I may use Outlook, I don't know.

Nearly all import solutions I have seen involve having OE installed on the same computer. How can I import all my e-mails with just the files?

Okay, according to this page, Windows Live Mail should be able to import my files with no problem? I hope that's true. And, ah, then I can export to Outlook (when I tried to import to Outlook years ago, it reset the Received date and time to the time of the import, which was stupid, so I never used it, but now that I use Outlook at work, maybe I want to use it at home, I don't know?). If Windows Live Mail will take my damn e-mails with no problem, I may just use it. Anyone have an opinion on it? I like that it apparently has an optional conversation view. Thunderbird can do things as well and is more customizable, but after years of OE, I don't really ask for much from a mail program, you know? I don't know what I want/need. Windows Live Mail also has a calendar (as does Outlook), but can they sync with my Google Calendar? I don't need more calendars.


le nubian - Oct 03, 2011 12:52:58 pm PDT #17987 of 25501
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

back up your OE files first and put them on an external hard drive.

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you might need to do OE --> Outlook before you can import your email files.


Polter-Cow - Oct 03, 2011 1:02:39 pm PDT #17988 of 25501
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Oh, my files are already backed up. For Outlook, actually, I would have to import to Windows Live Mail and then export to Outlook, but I may just use Outlook to keep my personal work e-mails. I think that was the issue I was having, actually, when I thought maybe I couldn't get Outlook. But I think I will have it.

I think also maybe that Thunderbird can't easily take my .dbx files, and I was considering using that program. But Windows Live Mail appears to be able to import my mail directly, so I can't remember what I was so worried about. I just hope it works correctly.


aurelia - Oct 03, 2011 3:58:20 pm PDT #17989 of 25501
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I had this problem, and apparently it's because I had bought stuff with two different IDs (although I'm not sure how), and I could never fix it, although I didn't go so far as to contact Apple about it. I think megan walker had a similar issue.

I only have the one ID. If it would just tell me which apps I'll lose, I could make a more informed decision.


Typo Boy - Oct 03, 2011 4:54:44 pm PDT #17990 of 25501
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I've been using Thunderbird as my backup, but with any setting I can find it has one flaw - it is find as a picture of Gmail's current state, but useless for archiving. If I delete something in gmail, thunderbird deletes it on the local client.

So I decided to give Gmail Backup a try. Only, it turns out Gmail backup backs up each email as a seperate file. I have 2 Gigabytes of gmail data. Understandably by the time all that was downloaded as separate files it slowed down by computer something awful. I uninstalled gmail backup and delete those files and deleted the restore point that help a copy of those 100,000 files or whatever in a single directory.

So I guess the next step is to backup thunderbird by copying to mbox file as a form of archiving, then start purging the absurd number of emails I have on gmail.


javachik - Oct 03, 2011 5:00:42 pm PDT #17991 of 25501
Our wings are not tired.

Huh. That's weird. Is that a Gmail thing? Because I have a Yahoo email address and use Thunderbird and it doesn't delete items in the inbox once I've deleted them from the server...


Typo Boy - Oct 03, 2011 5:19:33 pm PDT #17992 of 25501
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Maybe I just have a setting wrong on Thunderbird.


Typo Boy - Oct 03, 2011 5:31:20 pm PDT #17993 of 25501
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

OK. I have an IMAP connection, not a pop connection. I already used 2 gig of my 250 gig download with Gmail backup, so I won't mess with it at the moment. But next month I'll change to Pop, and see if I can keep it from deleting when downloading.

I'm certain it is possible to change to POP without redownloading everything, but in case I mess something up, and need to redownload, I'll wait.


le nubian - Oct 03, 2011 5:40:19 pm PDT #17994 of 25501
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

TB,

did you see this link?

[link]


Typo Boy - Oct 03, 2011 6:32:10 pm PDT #17995 of 25501
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah. That what I thought I had done. I looked at every setting except that it never occurred to me that I had enabled imap instead of POP. It is easy enough to enable pop, and then maybe the other setting will keep it from deleting on the client when stuff is deleted on the server. The reason I'm waiting until next month, is that I'm afraid that when I switch from IMAP to POP, it may download everything. I hope not, but just in case I'll wait until November so I don't use up too much of my Comcast bandwith. It depends on whether with a new connection Thunderbird will be smart enough to notice that I already have all existing emails.