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Jon B. - Jul 09, 2011 9:22:30 am PDT #17158 of 25501
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

That looks cool, but it's not relevant to my immediate need, which is to transfer a single multi-gigabyte file. Thanks, though.


§ ita § - Jul 12, 2011 7:04:48 pm PDT #17159 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

This might sound like a weirdly specific request, and with the prevalence of gmail, I don't even know if anyone can help--I'm looking for an email client (yeah, I said client) that deletes spam from the server.

Back in the day when I ran old Eudora, I was set. The spam filter was pretty good, and it would delete anything deemed spam off the server so I could actually use mail clients from my phone and webmail clients directly off the hosted accounts and not have to sift through hundreds of spam messages a day.

Spam didn't used to be so bad, but since a couple of the recent database breaches I've seen an insane uptick (Genie bra and Aluma wallet, I don't care how good you are, I will just never buy you), and the server side stuff my vendor provides seems to only work to randomly bounce back my sister's email and not work on actual spam.

tl/dr: free email client w/ spam filter that DELETES from server y/y?

Or, alternatively, what happens in Thunderbird when you set the Junk Mail setting to Automatically Delete Junk Mail Older Than 0 Days? Is there a setting that makes it immediate?


Jon B. - Jul 13, 2011 5:22:33 am PDT #17160 of 25501
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Could you set up a gmail account and redirect mail to it? or use "google apps for your domain" and change the mailbox whatchamacallit addresses to use google's server instead of yours?

Also, I know you probably don't want to switch hosts, but many provide server side spam filtering.


Rob - Jul 13, 2011 5:33:15 am PDT #17161 of 25501

Postini works very well.

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§ ita § - Jul 13, 2011 6:11:37 am PDT #17162 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Thanks, but I don't have the leeway to install anything on the server, so Postini is out. I was also hoping for free.

I have gmail setup to do spam filtering for one set of addresses, but it's not truly transparent for the email address. I'm not sure how I'd set it up to be so. Is there a way to do that?

And, yeah, I might look into a new host. But mine says it has spam tools. They just don't work. There's no way to tell that from the outside. Does anyone here have a host rec where they know they have good server-side spam filtering, including the ability to check email that has been bounced, and to whitelist?

eta: I think I can safely say that 0 days on Thunderbird doesn't mean right away. Mailbox is still full of junk.


Rob - Jul 13, 2011 6:48:14 am PDT #17163 of 25501

You don't have to install anything on your host. You just have to be able to direct the mx records for your domain to postini's servers.


§ ita § - Jul 13, 2011 6:53:40 am PDT #17164 of 25501
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You just have to be able to direct the mx records for your domain to postini's servers.

Ah, okay. I still hope to find something free. I can't work out why Eudora was the only client I'd seen that did that. Unfortunately the current Eudora is just Thunderbird addons, and doesn't look interesting at all.


Toddson - Jul 13, 2011 6:58:00 am PDT #17165 of 25501
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Don't know if this belongs here, but I had to share.


Jon B. - Jul 13, 2011 8:41:05 am PDT #17166 of 25501
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

You just have to be able to direct the mx records for your domain to postini's servers.

That's the mailbox whatchamacallit addresses I meant.


tommyrot - Jul 14, 2011 5:36:13 am PDT #17167 of 25501
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Any recommendations for business email hosting? Currently we use Earthlink, but we're fed up with them.

Since we have Comcast Business internet, we might switch to their email hosting as well. (Years ago, we picked Earthlink because they had dial-up, but we don't need dial-up anymore.)

eta: Oops, we need web hosting as well (just for a rudimentary web site at the moment).