Every planet has its own weird customs. About a year before we met, I spent six weeks on a moon where the principal form of recreation was juggling geese. My hand to God. Baby geese. Goslings. They were juggled.

Wash ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


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Connie Neil - Apr 10, 2011 11:03:56 am PDT #16483 of 25501
brillig

Instead of Entertaining, try Engaging.


Typo Boy - Apr 10, 2011 11:14:38 am PDT #16484 of 25501
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Engaging is indeed the right word.


Ginger - Apr 10, 2011 11:42:20 am PDT #16485 of 25501
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

Are you planning to sell this supplement, TB?


Typo Boy - Apr 10, 2011 11:48:11 am PDT #16486 of 25501
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I am. Why I'm willing to pay for professional help. I hope to make money off it. My publisher will not sell me discounted copies of the main book to sell on a book tour. So if I'm going to finance a book tour I will need something to sell, and this will be it. It is why I think I can actually sell something self published: I will be there in person selling copies one at a time.


Steph L. - Apr 10, 2011 12:29:27 pm PDT #16487 of 25501
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Okay, that clears it up for me. I was wondering why you weren't having the what-will-the-book-look-like convo with the publisher. (Uh, not that publishers really allow authors to have all that much [or any] input on the design.)

Do you anticipate different audiences for the less-graphic-intensive book (the one produced by the publisher; henceforth referred to as "the book") and the more-graphic-heavy supplement (self-published by you; henceforth referred to as "the supplement")?

If you anticipate (or hope for) overlap in audiences, I feel very strongly that the supplement should have some graphical elements that are the same as/similar to the graphical elements in the book.* Those tie the two together in the readers' minds, even if they don't consciously think about it.

(This is my own opinion about design; I believe it's the prevailing opinion, and one that's taught in design classes -- that you should tie produced pieces together visually. Obviously not all designers believe that, nor do they do it. And of course, the people paying the designers don't always want it, for whatever reason they may have. All that said, it's something I've always suggested with clients for whom I've produced more than one piece. Sometimes it's been as simple as keeping a specific Pantone color and using the same distinctive font. It's a principle Chatty and I try to push at work, because we want readers of our journal to associate our textbooks with our journals, but it's a losing battle with TPTB. They love everything to look radically different from everything else, and, in the end, they're the ones who sign our paychecks. I simply refuse to put the textbook with the blue cover and teal text [I am not lying] in my portfolio.)

*And having similar graphical elements might not be possible for you, if the book isn't completed (or even in production) before you begin production on the supplement. If you don't know what the book will look like, you can't retain some graphical elements for the supplement, and I get that.

Something to think about.


Typo Boy - Apr 10, 2011 12:35:21 pm PDT #16488 of 25501
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

There are essentially no graphical elements in The Book. So no overlap is possible. There are 16 tables, which are graphical elements in the publishers terms, but are not what we normally think of as graphic objects. There are two charts in The Book which will also be included in The Supplement. So in one sense 100% overlap, but in practical terms, none is possible.


Steph L. - Apr 10, 2011 12:45:57 pm PDT #16489 of 25501
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

There are essentially no graphical elements in The Book. So no overlap is possible. There are 16 tables, which are graphical elements in the publishers terms, but are not what we normally think of as graphic objects.

but in practical terms, none is possible.

I don't mean *graphics,* like charts and pictures and tables and whatnot. I mean things like fonts and colors. They have more of an impact than you think. Or a logo (which I doubt you have). Also things like -- and I don't know if you have this -- but if each page has a flush-left header with a 2-point rule under it, that can be repeated. If the page numbers are centered, that can be repeated. It might sound silly, but it ties different products together.

And if it's just plain naked text set in 12-point Times New Roman with no headers, not much of anything, well, then you can look at that as free rein to create the supplement. Surely the cover has something more distinctive than just 30-point Times New Roman text on a white background?

t edit And you might not want to tie them together. I'm just rattling off stuff I generally do. I'm certainly not an ace designer, so you'll be better off talking to a someone who is about all your stuff.


Typo Boy - Apr 10, 2011 12:48:49 pm PDT #16490 of 25501
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

OK got you. can ask


Tom Scola - Apr 12, 2011 6:21:37 am PDT #16491 of 25501
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Two years after Cisco purchased Pure Digital for $590 million, the company has decided to simply kill off the entire line of Flip video cameras.


DavidS - Apr 12, 2011 8:20:30 am PDT #16492 of 25501
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

iTunes question.

I've maxed out the space on my external hard drive and when I look at it says I have only 264 KB left.

However, I just moved several hours of files off that drive and deleted them from iTunes, restarted the computer, restarted iTunes and it still shows me as only having a few measley KB left.

How can I get iTunes to reconsider how much capacity I have on that hard drive?