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Volans - Sep 13, 2010 8:46:11 am PDT #14838 of 25501
move out and draw fire

I have questions about del.ici.ous

I add bookmarks to it from home and work and wherever I happen to be with my netbook.

But bookmarks I add at work, I can't see on home/netbook, and vice versa.

I use Chrome; work uses Firefox. Would this make a difference? Also, I use toolbar button extensions in each case.


tiggy - Sep 13, 2010 9:08:10 am PDT #14839 of 25501
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

it is, Jessica. i hadn't thought of that. argh.


Jessica - Sep 13, 2010 9:10:17 am PDT #14840 of 25501
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

My hatred for iMovie knows no bounds, so I'd say your best bet is to look for an old version of either Premiere or Final Cut Express.


Spidra Webster - Sep 13, 2010 9:14:05 am PDT #14841 of 25501
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

I think the old versions of iMovie were quite decent. Not fond of the recent revs, though.

tiggy, get familiar with Low End Mac [link] I think you'll find it a useful site. Ebay and Craig's List are places to look for old versions of software programs although it never hurts to ask here and other places because a lot of people are slow about clearing out their old software programs.


Gris - Sep 13, 2010 9:14:48 am PDT #14842 of 25501
Hey. New board.

Whereas I actually really like iMovie. And I've used FCE pretty extensively. iMovie doesn't offer the level of customization I'd like, but for basic hobby stuff, it's pretty easy to use.


tiggy - Sep 13, 2010 9:19:42 am PDT #14843 of 25501
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

thanks! a friend of mine has iLife and really likes it. that has iMovie in it, right? along with GarageBand(which is what she mostly uses it for).


Jessica - Sep 13, 2010 9:22:00 am PDT #14844 of 25501
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

My problem is I was trained on Avid, so the iMovie interface never made any sense to me. Final Cut Express was annoyingly dumbed-down (and pointlessly so in many cases - remove features for the cheap version, sure, but if a feature exists in both versions and works exactly the same way, why should the button for it be in a completely different place????) but at least it maintained an industry standard window layout.


Spidra Webster - Sep 13, 2010 9:24:17 am PDT #14845 of 25501
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

Yep, iLife has iMovie.


tiggy - Sep 13, 2010 9:27:27 am PDT #14846 of 25501
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

see...having never done any video editing, i'm thinking starting out with iMovie may be the best bet for me. thanks guys and gals!


amych - Sep 13, 2010 9:35:24 am PDT #14847 of 25501
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Yes, iMovie is the one that's part of iLife. I'm not a fan of it (although I don't have Jess's level of burning hatred), but others are -- it's certainly worth trying out to see if it fits your needs. (Also note that iMovie is frequently updated, and they tend to make huge changes between revisions, so the version your friend uses may be very different from the one you get; there are a lot of people out there holding on to versions they like better, and so some confusing info out there.) (As always, ask here first and we'll get you sorted out.)

Final Cut Express is Apple's mid-range video editing software. It has an interface that's much closer to the very expensive Pro stuff, but without some of the features; the latest version will run on your machine, but with some limits -- in particular, the raw video from some High Def video cameras comes in a format that only works on an Intel machine.

Final Cut Pro is expensive enough that you should only get it if work is paying or your passions and livelihood depend on it. And complex enough that you probably won't feel a need for it until you've gotten the basic concepts down on something easier to learn anyway.

Ultimately, the right fit depends on what you want to do -- iMovie is popular for putting together vacation/wedding/f2f stuff, but much less suited for something like (fan) vids, whereas FCE or FCP allow a lot more control if you want to get exactly THIS frame synched to exactly THAT music beat.

(surely x-posty as hell by now...)