This is my boat. They're part of my crew. No one's getting left. Best you get used to that.

Mal ,'Ariel'


Natter 48 Contiguous States of Denial  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


brenda m - Dec 28, 2006 10:53:28 am PST #8452 of 10007
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Okay, I think the cart escalators in Greece must be different from here. The ones I've seen here basically grab the cart by one of the lower bars and bring it up or down - they're not people movers.


Jesse - Dec 28, 2006 11:04:53 am PST #8453 of 10007
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, you get to go on the escalator with your cart? That's even more awesome.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 28, 2006 11:19:47 am PST #8454 of 10007
What is even happening?

You don't hold onto the bar in a Muni train you're going to be on your ass the first time they slam on the brakes. It's not so optional with the public transit in SF.
That's the sort of situation I meant, when I said the thing about my life depending on it. I try not to use skin, though. In the best situations, I'm wearing gloves. When I'm not, but have long sleeves, I'll extend them. Ucky ucky humans.

Also? Received and backflung. I await your response, while I try to resist the urge to change my board name to Incidentally Cindy.


shrift - Dec 28, 2006 11:23:27 am PST #8455 of 10007
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

As long as I can't smell it or step in a pile of it, I don't worry about gunk on public transit. I just wash my hands a lot.


Cashmere - Dec 28, 2006 11:34:26 am PST #8456 of 10007
Now tagless for your comfort.

My favorite is when the visiting family brings their tot on wheels into the train car, slobbering one of those red white and blue rocket pops all over the place. I sidle up all conspiritorial and say, "That's a $50 fine you know. The sign says no food...that means you." The panic is a bit too fun to watch, I'm afraid to say. Where can they put it, they ask? "You notice there aren't any trash cans in here right? That's because you aren't supposed to bring anything in. I'm sure the station master will have something to say at the next stop.' One poor grandmother actually stuck a popsicle in her handbag to hide it. I tried to feel bad.

I don't know why I didn't think of this before. When I was visiting London, I got typically American-indignant about the amount of litter in the tube stations and asked my native friend why they didn't have trash bins in the tube stations. He told me they removed them in the 70s when the IRA was bombing London because they were a security risk. Too easy to leave a bomb sized parcel unnoticed until it was too late. Now they pay people to pick up the litter.

I daresay that the DC metro has similar rules for similar reasons and that the sole reason for the lack of trash receptacles isn't to discourage eating or drinking on the trains. But rather eating and drinking are discouraged because they can't have trash bins for security reasons and are just trying to cut down on unneccessary litter.

oof, my spelling sucks.


Connie Neil - Dec 28, 2006 11:50:01 am PST #8457 of 10007
brillig

My very first time in NYC, I went into a subway station, found an out of the way corner, studied the system for getting a subway token, confirmed with my map which train I wanted for the Staten Island Ferry, then proceeded to breeze through the system with smug aplomb.

Then found myself giving directions to a group of tourists who had left one of their party back at the last station because they couldn't decide if they should get on the train or not and the door closed in the person's face. The map is on the wall, people! It was (probably) not put up there by sadists who are trying to direct you to the white slavers and the hopheads--unless you mean to go there.

It's so easy to be an intelligent tourist. I weep for my kind.


beekaytee - Dec 28, 2006 11:50:16 am PST #8458 of 10007
Compassionately intolerant

That's absolutely right, in fact, at one point all the trash bins were removed. Some are back now...on the platforms. I meant that there are no bins in the trains themselves.

I feel like I need to say that I'm not anti-kids at ALL. I love my tot friends...and their responsible, responsive parents...and goodness knows, I am a fan of creative strategies for getting by.

This particular story was focused on non-thinking, uncaring tourists. I've got no patience with folks marveling about the clean, safe, efficient public transit they aren't used to in their hometowns while trailing their rubbish through mine.


sarameg - Dec 28, 2006 11:55:04 am PST #8459 of 10007

Fabulous sunset happening right now.


msbelle - Dec 28, 2006 11:56:25 am PST #8460 of 10007
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

mac did not start asking about me until about 3. I, of course, am happy he started asking.


beekaytee - Dec 28, 2006 11:59:14 am PST #8461 of 10007
Compassionately intolerant

I've got a gorgeous sunset too. Pretty, pretty pink clouds.