I wanna die in bed surrounded by fat grandchildren, but guess that's off the menu.

Jenny ,'Bring On The Night'


Natter 48 Contiguous States of Denial  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kat - Dec 28, 2006 6:56:01 am PST #8326 of 10007
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

We did, Liese. We're sorry we missed you too.

No work for me, but I'm organizing papers and files. My life, she is full up of the glamourousness.


Sean K - Dec 28, 2006 6:58:46 am PST #8327 of 10007
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Is it morally wrong to participate in a group effort to overload the server of a site that you find reprehensible?

I don't think it's immoral or illegal (if your part in the DOS is simply downloading their largest file repeatedly), but I may be wrong about the illegal part.

In fact, one person in the comments at Digg says that it's an assault on free speech to make the WBC have to pay extra for their bandwidth by overloading it, but I disagree. Hitting them in the pocketbook (as long as you're not the government) seems like a perfectly valid and reasonable way to express your dislike of their message. It's not that much different from an organized boycott of a company that expresses ideas you strongly disagree with.

Free speech means they're free to say whatever they want. It doesn't mean they shouldn't have to pay money for it (provided you're not the government)


Liese S. - Dec 28, 2006 7:01:41 am PST #8328 of 10007
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

It's my fault. I got your note, but I'd spaced that it was the day you were traveling, and by the time I got it, the SO already had the car all day. I meant to bring him with me, I wanted him to meet you. I should have just called to let you know why not, but phone fear! So, my apologies.

We'll get together yet, another time.


Jessica - Dec 28, 2006 7:03:02 am PST #8329 of 10007
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Hitting them in the pocketbook (as long as you're not the government) seems like a perfectly valid and reasonable way to express your dislike of their message. It's not that much different from an organized boycott of a company that expresses ideas you strongly disagree with.

Except that in this case it seems more likely to push up their Google rankings than to crash their server. I'd rather ignore them entirely than risk a scheme like this backfiring.


Kathy A - Dec 28, 2006 7:04:07 am PST #8330 of 10007
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I wish my vet had an office kitty. When I was there for the first (and so far, only) time, they did have one of their patients/boarders out playing in the office--a great big boxer who was very curious about all of the animals being brought in for checkups and he was also a big "pet me, everyone!" slut.

Speaking of, my brother's two Malamutes were hanging out on their deck when I went over to his house yesterday (Kip was giving me a ride to the airport), and they lovelovelove getting attention. Of course, I was wearing a black knit shirt that had to be thoroughly lint-brushed afterwards, but I couldn't resist wrestling/scratching those two big goofballs.


Fred Pete - Dec 28, 2006 7:07:15 am PST #8331 of 10007
Ann, that's a ferret.

I'm with Jessica. Taking part in the effort means I'd have to go to Phelps's Web site. Which just ain't gonna happen.

Doesn't help that diggs's site wouldn't respond on my browser, causing both that window and the b.org window to close.


Jesse - Dec 28, 2006 7:08:55 am PST #8332 of 10007
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Hitting them in the pocketbook (as long as you're not the government) seems like a perfectly valid and reasonable way to express your dislike of their message. It's not that much different from an organized boycott of a company that expresses ideas you strongly disagree with.

It's just like how my father used to order every free thing the Christian Coalition (and etc.) offered him for his congregation, and then just throw it out. Except for the google backfire thing Jess mentions that doesn't exist when you're just talking about direct mail.


Volans - Dec 28, 2006 7:14:42 am PST #8333 of 10007
move out and draw fire

Our New Year's Eve plans: Nothing. Diplomats are not allowed to attend parties or any social function when a president dies, until the body is interred.

We are kind of thinking about having some other Amerikaniki over for board games or something, as long as we don't wind up in the papers.

Did Almaty used to be known as Alma Ata?

And various government agencies spell it various ways. Although now that the political capital is Astana, that difficulty becomes moot.


bon bon - Dec 28, 2006 7:17:13 am PST #8334 of 10007
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

IIRC, this article convinced me that Fred Phelps and his family was hardly worth paying attention to. He's, as they put it, "the demented uncle best left locked away in an upstairs bedroom."


shrift - Dec 28, 2006 7:18:46 am PST #8335 of 10007
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Getting a querulous e-mail in response to a read receipt when it's been less than a minute since I sent it, I think, is jumping the gun a bit.

Lady, it takes time to login, fix shit what needs it, and then type a reply. I am neither an Allen, a West, nor a Quick.