but sometimes it's only because we stopped believing.
Don't make me pull out Journey here, people!!
Right, there comes a point where you have to either move on, or just buy yourself a Klingon costume and go with it.
Xander ,'Same Time, Same Place'
Natter 48 Contiguous States of Denial
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Jesse - Dec 20, 2006 9:16:10 am PST #7214 of 10007
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Aims - Dec 20, 2006 9:17:09 am PST #7215 of 10007
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Trade you that Journey album for a bushel of wheat.
Sean K - Dec 20, 2006 9:17:26 am PST #7216 of 10007
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
I think I like Nutty's description best.
And Jesse near killed me.
bon bon - Dec 20, 2006 9:17:55 am PST #7217 of 10007
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
I don't see the implication that the effect of money or the economy isn't discoverable. It seems to me that you have an issue with the term semi-imaginary.
Right. Economies are not the same thing as things that are fictional, and I continue to find the idea that some parts of economics (i.e., currency) depend on certain shared beliefs (the value of currency) non-profound.
Jessica is right here:
But I don't know of any human society that does not exist on some level because people agree to trade things for other things -- economies develop because it is better to specialize and trade than to be self-sufficient.
The changing values of tulips, typewriters and AOL are interesting but not imagined; economies develop as Jessica notes and the valuing process is just a small part of it that doesn't impact the reality of economics as a part of society.
Nutty - Dec 20, 2006 9:18:21 am PST #7218 of 10007
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Journey is not worth a bushel of wheat. However, if you would like to take any (imaginary) Journey albums off my hands, I will graciously allow you to pay me in Beatles.
Aims - Dec 20, 2006 9:19:30 am PST #7219 of 10007
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Ha. Beatles for Journey is like trading heavy dark Swiss chocolate for a picture of pooh.
§ ita § - Dec 20, 2006 9:20:16 am PST #7220 of 10007
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I don't know of any human society that does not exist on some level because people agree to trade things for other things
I am so terribly lost. I don't know who implied otherwise.
In more-easy-for-me-to-follow news, I watched the last two episodes of the new British Robin Hood and it was stupid crap. I guess I was watching it to feel something about Robin of Sherwood--either to get me excited about the legend again, or to miss the "original" sharply.
Wow. I so got the latter.
Now I'm trying Terry Pratchett's Hogfather. Hmm. Perhaps I should stop this and convert it to iPod format for my travels.
Gudanov - Dec 20, 2006 9:20:39 am PST #7221 of 10007
Coding and Sleeping
I want to place a put on Nutty's Journey collection.
Nutty - Dec 20, 2006 9:23:21 am PST #7222 of 10007
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Next up: a Buffista discussion of the illusion of pari-mutuel betting!
(N.b. I don't actually know what pari-mutuel betting is, just that it's a point of debate among style guides and anyway kind of a cool word, like passerine or igneous .)
bon bon - Dec 20, 2006 9:23:24 am PST #7223 of 10007
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
I am so terribly lost. I don't know who implied otherwise.
I'm not saying *you* did.