Lorne: Snakes? Uh-huh. And they came out of your what? Okay. Okay, well, did they get up there themselves or is this part of a, you know, a thing? No, I'm not judging...Do we fight snakes? Angel: Only if they're giant. Or demons. Or giant demons. Are they giant demon snakes? Lorne: Well, unless this guy's 30 feet tall, I'm thinking they're of the garden variety.

'Lineage'


Natter 48 Contiguous States of Denial  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


juliana - Dec 20, 2006 7:29:02 am PST #7147 of 10007
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

All the talk of the housing bubble bursting has me kind of terrified, actually, since I'm buying a co-op RIGHT NOW.

I think the "burst" will be a lot less in places like NYC and SF, since there is high demand for limited space.


tommyrot - Dec 20, 2006 7:31:05 am PST #7148 of 10007
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

The 2006 Year-End Google Zeitgeist is out.

Damn, I don't even know what the number one search word ('bebo') is... I am so un-zeitgeisty.


Kat - Dec 20, 2006 7:32:19 am PST #7149 of 10007
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

One of the unfun side effects of the bubble is it's effect on driving rents up too. It's not just houses that become unaffordable but apartments too.


Jessica - Dec 20, 2006 7:33:58 am PST #7150 of 10007
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think the "burst" will be a lot less in places like NYC and SF, since there is high demand for limited space.

True, that. But it's still more than a little nerve-wracking to be setting a closing date when every article about housing is screaming "And whatever you do, DON'T BUY A HOUSE THIS YEAR!"


Aims - Dec 20, 2006 7:35:04 am PST #7151 of 10007
Shit's all sorts of different now.

One of the unfun side effects of the bubble is it's effect on driving rents up too. It's not just houses that become unaffordable but apartments too.

Very much this. The prices for apartments out here is scare-eee. When Joe and I move, our rent is going to go up by at least $400. Yikes!


bon bon - Dec 20, 2006 7:36:33 am PST #7152 of 10007
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

In all honesty I do not believe that professional economists fully understand the economy.

I don't know why economists are specially underinformed compared to any other professional academic. Psychologists don't fully understand why people behave the way they do. Mathematicians notoriously deal with thorny unsolved problems. Obviously there's a huge debate going on in physics right now as to what kind of evidence we need to base theories on. The mystery IS the point.


Strega - Dec 20, 2006 7:37:51 am PST #7153 of 10007

After expressing this opinion in my first micro-econ class in grad school, the professor (who is one of your colleagues, I think, flea, so I won't mention his name) went out of his way to heap scorn and derision on me.

I have to say, it sounds like he was responding in kind, unless there was some compelling reason to heap scorn and derision upon the man's chosen profession. In his class.


§ ita § - Dec 20, 2006 7:41:52 am PST #7154 of 10007
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I was told that the bubble would burst less hard in places with good employment. And that LA was one of those places. However, our bubble is stretched so artificially thin--it can't sustain itself.

As a non-owner who wonders where I'm supposed to get over half a million to buy a tiny home in my neighbourhood, I'm reasonably unsympathetic to the disappearance of paper wealth. But, damn, it must have been seductive to get in on the ground floor, and I'm sure people were busier checking what floor they were on that noting how many floors were left to go.

whenever I open a magazine I can usually point to exactly where photos have been retouched

From what I've been lead to believe, either your hand is tired from pointing or you don't read many magazines. You know those riders that bands have for their venues? I remember a TT poster who worked for, I think, Teen People. The celebs come with their own riders. So if it's not a candid (and maybe even then), J-Lo has had exactly the same sort of work done on her photos every single time.

It's like my boob-job curiosity. If Salma's breasts aren't real, why doesn't everyone go to her surgeon? Even if Salma's breasts are real, maybe there still are many people wandering around with great fake breasts. And what I think of as the fake boob look is just the obvious boob job look.

They may be among us.


Jessica - Dec 20, 2006 7:42:40 am PST #7155 of 10007
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think any subject that deals with human behavior is going to be fuzzy by definition -- you can only predict what people will do with their money up to a point, because people aren't always rational (or even predictably irrational).


Scrappy - Dec 20, 2006 7:44:01 am PST #7156 of 10007
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Sorry to interrupt this discussion, but I only have a second due to lots of actual (yuck) work to do and I have to post a link to the coolest little film ever. [link]

watch, marvel, and enjoy.