Dawn: I think a date should be in a real fancy restaurant, then champagne at a night club with a floor show, then ballroom dancing. Joyce: Unfortunately, we're not dating in a movie from the thirties.

'Get It Done'


Natter 48 Contiguous States of Denial  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


quester - Dec 02, 2006 4:45:08 pm PST #4152 of 10007
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

I wonder if there is someone who delivers alcohol and chocolate. I need both as I am stressing about finances. But it is dark and icy out and I don't want to drive anywhere.


Lee - Dec 02, 2006 5:04:04 pm PST #4153 of 10007
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I'm catching up on this week's Bones.

For an episode that started out as good and creepy, it ended up being very predictable. I knew it was the brother from the first minute he was on the screen.


sumi - Dec 02, 2006 5:42:25 pm PST #4154 of 10007
Art Crawl!!!

I still thought it was good and creepy.

Possibly because I watched it right before I went to bed. And sadly I have no Hodgins to help me through it.


Lee - Dec 02, 2006 5:50:08 pm PST #4155 of 10007
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Oh the beginning definitely was, sumi, and the very end. In between was eh.


§ ita § - Dec 02, 2006 5:51:46 pm PST #4156 of 10007
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oy. Oy. I am temporarily kravved out. Teaching at 11:30 and administering a test from 1:30 to about 7:00. Which means I got to teach the entire yellow belt syllabus in quick succession. While being evaluated.

Oy. Need lying down.

Kalshane! Daddy! Cool.

While I am completely besotted with my lemon pound cake a reviewer (see, I'm sharing) said it could be moister. Hrrm. I followed the CI recipe pretty much to a tee (shorted it by ¼ cup of sugar). I can't work out what to tweak. Take it out of the oven a touch earlier?


Strega - Dec 02, 2006 6:30:29 pm PST #4157 of 10007

I wish we could just be beautiful as individuals. Not because we conform to a set of ideals like a show dog, but because we are beautiful as ourselves.

Not to pick on you, because this is more something I've been mulling over for a while... but I'd rather we just stop making the idea of beauty so powerful. Some people are beautiful. Some people are smart. Some people are tall. Some people are blonde. You know? I'm not beautiful. I can be kinda pretty, with effort. I can be sexy, but that's easier. I'd like to be considered beautiful, but obviously not enough to do everything it would take, so I guess it's really more of a wish than a priority. I mean, we don't go around claiming, "Everyone's tall in their own way." Responding to "I'm beautiful and you're not" with "everyone's beautiful in their own way" seems like buying into the idea that it's terribly important that we all be beautiful. I feel like it'd be better to say, "Yup. So? That's not the end-all be-all."

Note: I am nowhere near as well-adjusted about this as I'm making it sound, but that's kind of my point. I think.


§ ita § - Dec 02, 2006 6:36:10 pm PST #4158 of 10007
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

When I was a wee bairn, I was ugly. My mother is a terribly practical sort, so she admitted this with the sort of precision that included mentioning my (somewhat uncanny, for a little black girl) resemblace to Mao Tse Tung (which explains why I knew what the Little Red Book was at a very young age--I even tried to read it, since we had one in the house my mother used to illustrate her point. Boring.).

She told me, she told others, she had no reluctance.

My little sister was a terribly cute baby. All dimples and smiles and loose curls where I was snarls and frowns and bald patches on my scalp. She had the professional pictures taken of her, looking coyly out from underneath the blanket.

Thing is, my mother never played favourites. She had an ugly kid and a cute kid, but what she really had was two daughters. I could be ugly and her daughter and she really only cared about the latter designation.

It made me nonchalant about looks from a very young age. It took society to tell me it mattered, but I liked my mother more, so I stuck to her version of the story.

Pretty is pretty. Pretty is fun to look at. But that's what pretty's for. Looking at. If you don't let it, it doesn't do much else.


Amy - Dec 02, 2006 6:43:00 pm PST #4159 of 10007
Because books.

I think "beautiful" is more subjective, and has far more meanings, than "smart" or "tall" or even "talented," though.

A very good friend of mine is really, truthfully, pretty homely. She doesn't have the features that are considered traditionally attractive. But when she grins? When she's laughing, and happy, and really lit up? She's beautiful then, because it has more to do with how looking at her at that moment makes me feel than what she looks like.

That said, I agree with Strega that the focus on attaining beauty has become absurd. I do appreciate the campaigns from companies like Dove, though, that are stressing "real beauty" or "natural beauty" and feature women with little makeup, no implants or cosmetic surgery, and normal people hair. What makes them lovely in the ads (aside from the soap they're purportedly using, or the moisturizer) is that they appear happy, and confident, and at ease.


Trudy Booth - Dec 02, 2006 7:01:00 pm PST #4160 of 10007
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Well, for most of history almost everywhere the most valuable thing about a woman was her looks (well, and her virginity). Nobody cares about the king's smart daughter or his really nice daughter or the really funny daughter.

Humanity is probably better off than we've ever been in this regard.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 02, 2006 8:15:58 pm PST #4161 of 10007
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Saturday Night Live was dismally unfunny tonight, just as I'd feared it would be. Though they did buy my approval by putting Matthew Fox in a midriff-baring costume at the end.