I'm looking at Jen's photos, and what strikes me first as "unacceptable" about her figure is her thighs. By which I mean they wouldn't peg me on a real person, but for TV and certainly modelling they're bigger than we're used to. From the hips up, though? She looks TV ready to me.

I'd like to see us get used to them.

I looked at that Snopes page. Yeah, talk about undermining the message.

I'm looking at Jen's photos, and what strikes me first as "unacceptable" about her figure is her thighs. By which I mean they wouldn't peg me on a real person, but for TV and certainly modelling they're bigger than we're used to.

Even if they seem bigger than we're used to on TV, they don't look that much bigger, and I've been pining for more curvy chicks on TV anyway. One of my favorite characters on Criminal Minds is Garcia, the curvy (even curvier than that model) brainy tech chick who commands the Internet and digs up all the information the BAU team needs for any given case. In particular, I like very much that they don't de-sexualize her. She's flirty, and others are flirty in return. And they do a good job of making her look attractive, I think.

More curvy chicks on TV now, please!

It's like Sara Ramirez -- she looks ENORMOUS on TV, but regular for real life.

I love Garcia and Shemar Moore on that show. Cute!

Neil Patrick Harris and Jason Segal sing Les Miz

Holy cow. That was fucking AWESOME. The "Confrontation" song was the one that we high-school theatre geeks always sang, so now I have extra-special NPH love.

I'm looking at Jen's photos, and what strikes me first as "unacceptable" about her figure is her thighs. By which I mean they wouldn't peg me on a real person, but for TV and certainly modelling they're bigger than we're used to.

This is true. However, it looks better to me than thighs that don't touch. When a woman's knees are the widest part of her leg, that just looks unappealing.

That said, the fabric of that swimsuit was ideal for a lush curvy figure, and NSM for a bony one. If the skeeeeeeny model wore the same suit design in a different fabric (like, more gathered, ruched cotton-like material vs. lycra), I doubt that her protruding bones would be so obvious. Though the cut of the top is not at all meant for a flat-chested woman, so that's a disadvantage, too.

Still, I'd rather snuggle up to the lush curvy model than the skinny one. I'd be afraid her bones would stab me.

Oh, and also: this is why swimsuit/lingerie models are generally curvier than "fashion" models. Clothes hang "better" off the bones, but boobs and etc. look better when they're what you're looking at.

Neil Patrick Harris and Jason Segal sing Les Miz

That was awesome.

I love Garcia and Shemar Moore on that show. Cute!

Seriously! I watched the pilot because I wanted to see Mandy Patinkin and Thomas Gibson's new show, but within the first five minutes it was clear that the show was heavily based on the life and writings of John Douglas, one of the original FBI profilers and author of numerous books, and I was instantly hooked (I've been a fan of Douglas and his books for some time -- psychology in general can be very hit-or-miss in my experience, but behavior profiling is disturbingly accurate).

I was frustrated for a while that it was on opposite Lost, but Lost has, er, lost it's lustre for me, so that's not really a problem any more.

So they're walking hangers? That makes so much more sense, now. Seriously.

I love Garcia and Shemar Moore on that show. Cute!

OMG YES. I love Garcia in general though, and Moore, but loved the Garcia and Spencer interaction on this week's ep.

That's the thing, really. I wish we could just be beautiful as individuals. Not because we conform to a set of ideals like a show dog, but because we are beautiful as ourselves. When I was growing up, I was nice and skinny according to that requirement, but I spent those years hidden in voluminous clothing, ashamed because of my flat chest. I was happy at first when the standard of beauty was model-thin, but then I realized that I was too short. Now with age & weight I have curves, but I have that weight elsewhere, too. And I wouldn't have spent all that time trying to conform to a scale of beauty that doesn't actually include my race.

In the end, I'm just me, and lucky enough to have the SO who thinks I'm lovely. But I wasted a lot of time in trying to be someone I wasn't; and that someone kept changing!