A vague disclaimer is nobody's friend.

Willow ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 48 Contiguous States of Denial  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Nutty - Nov 30, 2006 8:23:04 am PST #3793 of 10007
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

There were a bunch in MA when I was in college that were rough stuff -- first-person testimonials about How Smoking Messed UP My Body.

Most notable was one by a 22 year old woman with emphysema. I mean, when you think about it, she'd have to be smoking 20 cigarettes at once, and continuously since birth for that emphysema not to have some other (genetic, e.g.) factor, but seeing a 22 year old woman with narsty lungs and O2 in a tube and a thousand meds to take daily tends to ram the point home.

And then there was the local-interest one, which was about how OBVIOUSLY smoking is addictive, because only an addict or a nut would stand outside in the freezing cold in the middle of winter to smoke.


Allyson - Nov 30, 2006 8:23:30 am PST #3794 of 10007
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I saw a tv show once with before and after pics of meth users that was pretty convincing. They should do a time-lapse of someone's teeth and skin after smoking for a few years.

"If you don't care about your health, quit for vanity!"


Trudy Booth - Nov 30, 2006 8:26:46 am PST #3795 of 10007
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

the one I hate the most exposes Project Scum (Sub Culture Urban Marketing) which really was offensive and appalling, etc.

but its some annoying sanctimonious 20 year old hippie standing there with an elderly homeless black man introducing him "this is my friend Morris..." and Morris (or whatever his name actually was) reads the really offensive leaked tobacco company memo...

but "my friend"? puhleeze. like you two are going to catch a game after the shoot. like you've been hanging out at Starbucks and one day hippie boy said, "hey, Morris, I'm working on this ad campaign... it won't be exploitative AT ALL"


Daisy Jane - Nov 30, 2006 8:27:47 am PST #3796 of 10007
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I'm thinking 4 is not going to be early enough to leave. We should be looking at in the next 30 min or so. I just ran outside to de ice the car- oh, and to smoke.


Trudy Booth - Nov 30, 2006 8:27:56 am PST #3797 of 10007
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

"If you don't care about your health, quit for vanity!"

There was an anti-steriod campaign in high schools that targeted teenage girls along those lines. "See these zits? See how she looks like a guy?" I was impressed.


Dana - Nov 30, 2006 8:28:12 am PST #3798 of 10007
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I hate everyone who ever raved about Zappos.

I may be getting these: [link]

Or...oh, my god, I found the exact same shoe I currently own which is falling apart as we speak. I take it back. I love you all.


shrift - Nov 30, 2006 8:29:43 am PST #3799 of 10007
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Yeah, just as long as the commercials aren't trying to convince me that I'll blow my best friend's head off with my dad's gun if we smoke some weed.

Dude, I don't know what kind of weed those boys were smoking, but in my experience it should have involved a lot more loopy conversations about existentialism and trips to Jimmy John's.


Dana - Nov 30, 2006 8:30:46 am PST #3800 of 10007
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Not in stock! Back to hating you.


§ ita § - Nov 30, 2006 8:36:29 am PST #3801 of 10007
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The hate won't last Dana. Don't fight it. Zappo's like nicotine that way.

Too late now!

Check the network's web site. There may still be episodes available online.

Happy birthday, Emeline!

My sister could use any ID she's had since about age 15 or whenever she cut off her straightened hair. She's pretty much pulled a Dorian Gray. Which is creepy. I might look younger than my actual age--but at least my appearance has changed over the years.


shrift - Nov 30, 2006 8:38:14 am PST #3802 of 10007
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Free Thai for lunch from the awesome Thai place! Thursday is no longer on notice.