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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
There's a fair amount of increduality and often a side of is she mental?!
sarameg, I worked at a vet's office for years. We had one client who had 2 beautiful Goldens. She would bring them in every other week for baths and insist on taking them home wet. In her Rolls Royce with leather interior. Now that's sorta mental!
(And Cindy, I'm really sorry if this is starting to feel like a pile-on, which I think it may after I look at how much I just wrote. The original question hit while I couldn't answer, and it's an issue that I've had a pretty major interest in for many years now. So I'm probably doomed to go on and on about it, but my target is crappy arguments rather than anything personal.)
I don't want there to be a pile-on, but I think it's not easy to get up to speed on all the permutations of the so-called debate, so I'd love to hear you go on and on.
amych, I know exactly what you mean. It's basically easily treatable, but does require a fair amount of commitment. Plus, I suspect there's the whole issue of your cat lets you give him shots!?
Lee, if he doesn't remember you precisely, he definitely wishes there were more daytime people around this joint
Mine too. Especially with the heat not working, which it currently isn't.
Mister Kitty is sitting quite royally on a rectangle of crinkly irridescent plastic. He's quite thrilled with it.It's like a Throne of Power to them, I swear.
Seriously. MK will mug me for the stuff. He knocked the top off one container and proceded to scoop out blobs with his paw. I don't imagine a lot is good for them, but...it is grease. If hairballs are the culprit, it'll let them, um, slide through.Kittenish won't even go for the Petromalt. Snobbish twit. I just got good at cleaning up hairballs finally.
she returned the favor by apparently teaching Minion's new six-month pup to sit at intersections when they went on walks.Good, Lu!
On a side note, the article tommyrot linked to about the universe next door does mention how the LISA project could support, or disprove, the idea. Other theories* about extra dimensions are about things happening at the subatomic level, and there are experiments going on with particle accelerators to try to support them. But at least some of them are based on already observable data -- they're attempts to explain stuff that doesn't make sense if there are only 4 dimensions.
*And yeah, they aren't theories in a scientific sense; they are hypotheses. This is a pithy little explanation of what scientific laws and theories are. I believe that in order to be a law, it has to be universal. Theories may not be.
Plus, I suspect there's the whole issue of your cat lets you give him shots!?
There is that! I don't think any of mine would've objected very seriously, but then I've always had animals who've known from babyhood that they had to accept being handled in unpleasant ways -- I've known plenty of people who have never once cut their pets' nails because they just assume they'd never allow it -- and so they don't. (I just can't imagine paying a groomer or vet every time they start making clicky noises on the hardwoods...)
amy, it didn't feel like a pile on at all. Please go on, if you have more to say. My questions were earnest questions, not argument set-ups. For every article out there (on either side) there is a rebuttal, and that's where they all lose me. Here's what I know (not necessarily in this order):
1) I have no reason not to accept sound scientific findings.
2) To date, nothing science has found has talked me out of theism, but I don't think it's meant to, in the first place (personal opinion of some scientists, aside).
I'd never want to talk you out of theism, Cindy -- it's such a huge part of you! For my own part, I'm pretty thoroughly agnostic on the G-d question*, but also a total evolution fangirl; I don't think atheism is required by my position, although literalism is clearly Right Out. Still, I wanted to say something upfront rather than worry that you felt like you were getting jumped. (Anyway, my major hate-on is for shitty, shitty arguments and the way they're used to manipulate people.)
* and yet? Still weird on writing it. Behold my contradictions!
Oh, I didn't think you would try to talk me out of it. I mentioned that, because I think it plays into where all the writers lose me. I lack a tizzy for science v. religion and vice versa.
Anyway, my major hate-on is for shitty, shitty arguments and the way they're used to manipulate people.
Yes. And that's part of why I didn't feel piled on, either. I was truly asking, because at some point, when you're reading point-counterpoint articles, at least one of the writers is mistaken, misleading, or flat out lying (often both are, from what little I understand of the subject, at least somewhat mistaken/misleading).