You guys had a riot? On account of me? A real riot?

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


Natter 48 Contiguous States of Denial  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


sarameg - Nov 28, 2006 11:29:45 am PST #3433 of 10007

I got the prettiest Hannukah candles at the grocery store. They look like hand dipped, and are in gradations: dark to light blue, orange to yellow and a deep burgandy to stop sign red. I have no idea what I'll use them for but...pretty.


Gudanov - Nov 28, 2006 11:31:35 am PST #3434 of 10007
Coding and Sleeping

I got the prettiest Hannukah candles at the grocery store. They look like hand dipped, and are in gradations: dark to light blue, orange to yellow and a deep burgandy to stop sign red. I have no idea what I'll use them for but...pretty.

Well you could convert and then you'll have a use.


Cass - Nov 28, 2006 11:36:20 am PST #3435 of 10007
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

but then Behind the Wheel . . . (which Martin claims is actually about driving. Riiiiiiight)
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight... He's such the sub.


Allyson - Nov 28, 2006 11:42:37 am PST #3436 of 10007
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Okay, bon bon, but see, my watch is complex, and obviously, someone intelligent designed it.

runs


Cass - Nov 28, 2006 11:47:59 am PST #3437 of 10007
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

but see, my watch is complex, and obviously, someone intelligent designed it.
It is pink?


§ ita § - Nov 28, 2006 11:48:59 am PST #3438 of 10007
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It is pink?

You thinking god as Barbie, or god as Hello Kitty?


sarameg - Nov 28, 2006 11:50:11 am PST #3439 of 10007

Speaking of science: Our future is in his hands...

(someone cut his bangs too short!)


Topic!Cindy - Nov 28, 2006 11:51:43 am PST #3440 of 10007
What is even happening?

Okay, this:

This is total BS-- they ARE asking for actual historical narratives, or they're not at all convinced by the mountains of data accumulated to show how and why a certain trait could have evolved. It's gobbledygook.

And the 'constantly changing the finish line,' are answers I get. Thanks to you both (and Jess's wakas, which I hope her OB can find for her).

So an example (from the Dembski blog entry) of this unconvinced-by-mountains of data is when he says this?...

**The one thing new here is that Orr looks to the type three secretory system (TTSS) as a possible evolutionary precursor for the bacterial flagellum. Our side has pretty well handled this objection (see Behe’s contribution to my coedited collection Debating Design with Cambridge University Press as well as my response to Ken Miller titled “Still Spinning Just Fine“). The problem with looking to the TTSS as an evolutionary precursor of the bacterial flagellum (leaving aside that the best evidence points to the TTSS “devolving” from the flagellum rather than evolving into it) is that it is so much simpler than the flagellum. Thus, in merely pointing to the TTSS as a possible evolutionary precursor, one has not offered anything like a detailed Darwinian pathway to the flagellum.

Is 'detailed Darwinian pathway,' a Discovery Institute-ism?

eta...

bon bon, would Bob Bob agree with Nutty's assessment of Dembski's rhetorical skills?


Cass - Nov 28, 2006 12:07:20 pm PST #3441 of 10007
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

You thinking god as Barbie, or god as Hello Kitty?
Atheism is starting to look kinda good, now that you mention it.


§ ita § - Nov 28, 2006 12:10:52 pm PST #3442 of 10007
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I, for one, welcome our new mouthless overlord.