Plus bonus points for use of the word 'mosey'.

Oz ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Natter 48 Contiguous States of Denial  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


megan walker - Nov 28, 2006 7:09:11 am PST #3380 of 10007
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Yeah. Bat bites can be two little pinpricks. Rabies is 100% avoidable with the shots and 100% fatal once the disease develops... so you get the shots.

Aaah. Let's hope that A) my bat is still not in the basement and 2) that if it is, it does not make its way into my apartment. In any case, I've decided that all laundry will be done during the day for the near future.


amych - Nov 28, 2006 7:09:27 am PST #3381 of 10007
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Trudy, is it terrible to say that I thought of you as soon as the question came up? I mean, I would understand if you don't want to be thought of as Rabies Girl forever. (Although Batgirl has a ring to it...)


Trudy Booth - Nov 28, 2006 7:10:56 am PST #3382 of 10007
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

We can go with Batgirl.


Topic!Cindy - Nov 28, 2006 7:13:10 am PST #3383 of 10007
What is even happening?

I would call parallel universes and extra dimensions speculation not science. There is no experimental evidence that they exist and until there is, there is no reason to think they are reality. It can be interesting to speculate what the math may imply, but a theory that cannot be subjected to experiment isn't in the realm of science. I would say if a scientist is claiming something without any empirical evidence to be true, then that is faith. If a scientist is just claiming that something is implied but not provable, then it's just speculation based on science.

Isn't that what the ID proponents are doing?

Key word there being "currently" -- in many, if not most cases, it's not that such theories are inherently untestable, it's that we don't have the tools yet. (Solution: bigger toys!)

Isn't that what the ID proponents say?

Isn't calling it a theory quotation marks right there?

I think (am not sure) that in scientific usage, the word theory has much smaller, lighter quotation marks, and much more weight behind it, doesn't it? I mean, isn't that what people are mocking when they mock the way evolution-deniers emphasize that it's the "Theory" of Evolution?

Don't scientists use the word hypothesis, for the quotation mark meaning theory?

(That's an earnest question, ita; I only ever retain half of what I read about those conversations.)


sj - Nov 28, 2006 7:15:11 am PST #3384 of 10007
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

HIMYM: A year later he is still with Robin?


bon bon - Nov 28, 2006 7:25:08 am PST #3385 of 10007
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

The problem with ID is that it has been conclusively debunked and yet its proponents still persist in claiming it is a valid scientific theory. At the time it was proposed, it was interesting and took a while to bring down. But now many, many people have shown the flaws in the theory. The people behind ID still don't acknowledge those criticisms. At that point they're no longer doing science.

ETA: here's an overview of some of the scientific stuff in ID: [link]


Lee - Nov 28, 2006 7:27:42 am PST #3386 of 10007
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

about your whitefont, sj-- I thought they left it open, or at least plausibly deniable. they seemed to be there together, but it seemed to me that there was a distance between them, and they both answered for themselves when they were asked if they were leaving .


Gudanov - Nov 28, 2006 7:30:17 am PST #3387 of 10007
Coding and Sleeping

Isn't that what the ID proponents are doing?

Yes. It's speculation not science just like parallel universes.

Isn't that what the ID proponents say?

No. ID can never be falsified.

Theory can be pretty ambiguous. The Theory of Evolution has overwhelming evidence while String Theory has nothing but some interesting math.


sj - Nov 28, 2006 7:31:11 am PST #3388 of 10007
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Lee, I didn't really notice that; thanks for bringing it up. I just thought it was weird that they would box themselves in like that. At least we know that Lily and Marshall do get married this time. I was hoping that when Lily stood up she would be pregnant.


Jessica - Nov 28, 2006 7:35:11 am PST #3389 of 10007
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Isn't that what the ID proponents say?

Yes, but they're lying about it. ID makes no predictions, and there's simply no experiment or observation that can be done to confirm or disprove "...or maybe the Flying Spaghetti Monster did it."

(Unlike quantum physics, where we mostly just have to keep building bigger particle accelerators, and hope that the guys trying to make wormholes don't accidentally destroy the fabric of space-time.)