If I were ever elected to public office, I think my first proposal would be a bill that forbids you to name a bill the opposite of what it does.
This money, it is too much. You should have some small refund.
Niska ,'War Stories'
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Jessica - Nov 07, 2006 8:34:36 am PST #306 of 10004
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Ailleann - Nov 07, 2006 8:34:48 am PST #307 of 10004
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda
We had two smoking ballot initiatives.
The part I hate about that is that Smoke Less is a state constitutional amendment, but Smoke Free is just a regular issue. So if they both win, the crappy one has precedence.
I think the restaurant people are making a poor choice. The percentage of non-smokers outweighs the smokers (I would think), so you're not favoring the majority of your client base. I think if it passes, I'll either boycott sitdown restaurants entirely, or ask to eat my food out on the curb.
Jessica - Nov 07, 2006 8:36:48 am PST #308 of 10004
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I think I saw a few of the Smoke Less ads when I was in Cincy this weekend. I really want to know -- do they really think Ohioans believe that California and New York are now completely devoid of bars and restaurants? 'Cause, um...we're not.
Laura - Nov 07, 2006 8:37:42 am PST #309 of 10004
Our wings are not tired.
MIL called this morning to see how to vote. MIL: Should we vote for more sales tax to build a new courthouse? Me: Do you need a new courthouse? We aren't in the same county so I haven't read enough about it. Chances are they need a new courthouse, and need to pay for it. We upped the sales tax in my county a couple years ago for schools and parks and both of my kids are in new shiny schools instead of the portables they used to be in. Taxes for stuff we need makes sense. Taxes for waging war, not so much.
Sean K - Nov 07, 2006 8:39:13 am PST #310 of 10004
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
do they really think Ohioans believe that California and New York are now completely devoid of bars and restaurants? 'Cause, um...we're not.
Hell, there's still more than one or two bars that will quietly provide you with an ashtray if you ask, i.e. the regular clientele contains enough smokers that they've all tacitly agreed to ignore the law.
Ailleann - Nov 07, 2006 8:42:04 am PST #311 of 10004
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda
I almost miss the tiered system they had in the last place I lived. Some were smoke-free, some had separated, and some were all play. You knew when you walked in the door what the environment would be, and the smokers could be happy too.
I'm sure from a smoker's point of view that's kinda like me saying they're welcome to sit in the back of the bus.
Connie Neil - Nov 07, 2006 8:43:01 am PST #312 of 10004
brillig
we do owe a debt to each other, payable through the State.
Commie. If God intended for people to have health care, he'd have made them all rich enough to afford it.
At least, that's what lots of my neighbors say.
juliana - Nov 07, 2006 8:43:09 am PST #313 of 10004
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…
Hell, there's still more than one or two bars that will quietly provide you with an ashtray if you ask, i.e. the regular clientele contains enough smokers that they've all tacitly agreed to ignore the law.
There's a few bars here that are staffed exclusively by the owners and can therefore allow smoking.
Cashmere - Nov 07, 2006 8:45:32 am PST #314 of 10004
Now tagless for your comfort.
I think I saw a few of the Smoke Less ads when I was in Cincy this weekend. I really want to know -- do they really think Ohioans believe that California and New York are now completely devoid of bars and restaurants? 'Cause, um...we're not.
When the local bans were being enacted (Columbus proper and the surrounding 'burbs) lots of bars were screaming about how they were going to go out of business. Funny thing is that they didn't. I hate that they managed to get the constitutional amendment on the ballot--and all of their advertising was misleading.
I was pregnant with Olivia after the ban passed and we went to a local bar to see a band--one that we had frequented before we had Owen. I sat there for about 15 minutes before I realized there was no smoke at all. It was fucking awesome!
Laura - Nov 07, 2006 8:48:35 am PST #315 of 10004
Our wings are not tired.
Our smoking regs aren't as tough as CA or NY. The bars with minimal food still are stinky smoking zones. Restaurants no, but lots of them have outside sections. Of course this is probably more the case in Florida than other states.
It would be a wonderful thing if they would prohibit the smoking in bars here. DH strips and leaves his clothing on the front step when he comes home from shooting pool. Then heads straight for the shower.
Our only smoking related amendment this time is about spending funds for education. We have 6 amendments. Budget forecasts, % of people to pass amendments, tobacco money spending, 2 bills on homestead exemption, and eminent-domain stuff. My son was reading off my sample ballot to MIL while driving to school so she would know how to vote. I suppose that it is better to ask a trusted loved one than to just vote yes to all, or no to all.