Naderites still trying to sell the "there's no difference between 'em" meme

Are there any of those left? (Besides Nader, I mean.)

Well, there's me.

Gud, how did that happen?

I'm surprised that district 2 went Democrat. Boyda (the winner) signs all just said "Had Enough?" and I guess people did.

I'm really surprise how well MO. went for me. I was expecting to be 1-4 in major votes and I went 4-1. I guess my area of town made me pessimistic.

Every year it looks really bad at first when the rural vote comes in and then the urban areas come in late and change everything. I thought McCaskill was too far behind after the early returns, but the urban areas went for her in a landslide. She'll be a good senator, I've heard her interviewed a few times back when she was prosecutor in my county and she was always very impressive.

And I have yet to see a liberal blogger talking about how great it'd be if terrorists nuked some red-state city.

But I've seen liberals gleefully discussing ways to string up and torture a lot of the Republicans in office. Still hate, just a different focus.

It needs to be lunch now. Or I might run amok through the cubicles searching for edible booty.

It's easy to find vile and crazy on the Internet from any side, but the right has a lot more blowhards and crazy on the radio and TV.

Or I might run amok through the cubicles searching for edible booty.

Do you work for the Chicago branch of Vivid Entertainment?

I would agree, but I'd argue that there's more of the crazy, the hate, on Republican blogs.

Nah. You just don't find it compelling in the same way.

No, I strongly disagree.

Yeah, there are certainly pockets of liberals who are plenty offensive. But it doesn't have nearly the same level of acceptance or influence among the broader community. The Repubs have incubated and encouraged this type of discourse over a long period, and it's reflecting in the tone and nature of the political climate in the respective parties.

Object to some of their more out-there positions or statements as you may (and as I too sometimes do), but can you really class Michael Moore and Al Franken with Coulter, Limbaugh, Michael Savage et al?

And in the blogosphere, where there are certainly some of the more offensive types on both sides, the question remains - who are the influential bloggers? Who are the ones setting the terms of the debate? Daily Kos v. Drudge, to choose only the most mainstream. The fact that there are ugly Dems you can point to doesn't change the fact that in the predominant liberal community these folks are outliers. In right-wing circles they're thought leaders.

Are there any of those left? (Besides Nader, I mean.)

Well, there's me.

In 2000, I saw very little difference between the Dems and Repubs. But I figured the abortion issue was important enough for me to support the Dems. But I think the current administration is one of the most radical, if not the most, in our nation's history, and they've gotten a lot of support from Republican congresspeople. I haven't seen liberals advocate such radical ideas as the elimination of habeas corpus, or arguing that the Supreme Court should not be allowed to rule on the constitutionality of laws passed by Congress. I mean, I appreciate the argument that "both sides have bad apples" but I think the current threat represented by the Bush administration transcends that.

It's easy to find vile and crazy on the Internet from any side, but the right has a lot more blowhards and crazy on the radio and TV.

I couldn't agree more. They're the party of Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, and those other scumsuckers who think nothing of appearing in nationwide media to casually promote hatred of Muslims, mock the less-fortunate, promote the subversion of democratic institutions, and push an agenda of unlimited executive power. At that same level of media exposure, our side has Michael Moore and Al Franken, who may be obnoxious blowhards, but to the best of my knowledge, they are not actively trying to undo two centuries of progress.

Xpost. What Brenda Said will do for me.

Do you work for the Chicago branch of Vivid Entertainment?

No. But I totally would devour some unused edible underwear right now to keep low blood sugar from turning me evil.