Good luck. Try not to kill people. Hands! Hands!

Willow ,'Storyteller'


Natter 47: My Brilliance Is Wasted On You People  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - Nov 07, 2006 5:08:26 am PST #8040 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I voted, there was a line but only for the part of the alphabet I'm not in.

My vote for congress will go my way. My vote for senate will not go my way but will be close. Of the six issues I voted on, three will go my way but the three controversial ones will not. Almost everything else was unopposed.


sarameg - Nov 07, 2006 5:11:14 am PST #8041 of 10001

Then morning happened. So I'm going to vote after work.

shrift is me. But I knew it was going to happen, so didn't bother with the whole early alarm and all that. Hoping the past is an indication and the real rush is in the morning.


Fred Pete - Nov 07, 2006 5:12:42 am PST #8042 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

No real lines at my polling station at 6:45ish this morning.


Cashmere - Nov 07, 2006 5:13:13 am PST #8043 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

We had a seriously complicated issue on the ballot which was pulled. Seems there was a last minute conflict surrounding the number of legal signatures to get the issue on the ballot. It was about workers' compensation (a HOT topic here in Ohio). But it included a provision that made it possible for people who are raped while on the job to get workers' compensation payments for missed work. I'm boggled that that wouldn't be allowed now. I mean, you'd have to take sick time for missed work or not get paid?


Gudanov - Nov 07, 2006 5:15:06 am PST #8044 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

There was a bigger turnout that I expected, which is not good for my people. My precinct is very conservative (in a religious right sort of way as opposed to wealthy sort of way).

I'm annoyed by all the signs urging people to vote no on the Stem Cell issue. All the no signs are about stopping cloning and the amendment explicitly prohibits cloning.

Personally, I don't think cloning is all bad. I think there could be some good uses for cloning cells and the desire to prohibit it is mostly knee jerk reaction to the science fiction picture of cloning.


shrift - Nov 07, 2006 5:16:29 am PST #8045 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

One person has already wandered around the office asking if people had voted. While I applaud the sentiment, oh my god, lady, right now I don't even have the fine motor control to keep my coffee out of my lap; I'll vote when I'm awake.


tommyrot - Nov 07, 2006 5:16:33 am PST #8046 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Didn't we talk about this here?

From the Pharyngula blog (probably the most famous cephalopod-loving blogger out there):

How can you eat a genius?

Maybe with a little butter and garlic.

This article makes a troubling point: if cephalopods are so smart, shouldn't we feel some guilt about eating them?

I think I actually agree with some of the ethical issues raised, and probably should hesitate to kill and eat something like the octopus. However, it also commits the sin of lumping an extraordinarily diverse clade like the Cephalopoda into one poorly characterized gemisch. Yes, the Pacific octopus is a very clever beastie, but those schools of small, fast-breeding squid that get netted and chopped up for calamari? Not so much. The article makes a mistake comparable to highlighting the brilliance of Homo sapiens, and then arguing that we shouldn't eat cows for fear of losing the next Shakespeare. If you want to make an ethical argument against the consumption of squid, that's fair…but don't do it by falsely concatenating all cephalopod species into an inaccurate classification of 'smart, tool-using problem solvers'. It just isn't true.

I also find this weird:

This evidence has so convinced officials on the Animal Procedures Committee (APC), the experimentation watchdog in the UK, that it has recommended to ministers that the law governing animal testing be amended so all cephalopods are given the same protection as animals.

So what have cephalopods been considered until now, mushrooms?


tommyrot - Nov 07, 2006 5:18:00 am PST #8047 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I'm annoyed by all the signs urging people to vote no on the Stem Cell issue. All the no signs are about stopping cloning and the amendment explicitly prohibits cloning.

The amount of brazen lying by Republicans seems to be higher than usual this year....


tommyrot - Nov 07, 2006 5:21:19 am PST #8048 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Ooh - there's a nearby cafe that's giving away free coffee to everyone who voted... so off I go. (I'll be dark for about ten minutes.)


Gudanov - Nov 07, 2006 5:21:31 am PST #8049 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

I think the stem cell amendment we have here will be bad news for the dems. It's helping to get the base out for the republicans. Every church in my area that's not methodist has a thick fence of 'vote no' signs.