And now my boy's in love. All hearts and flowers. But, doesn't it freak you out that she used to change your diapers? I mean, when you think about it, the first woman you boned is the closest thing you've ever had to a mother. Doing your mom and trying to kill your dad. Hm. There should be a play.

Angelus ,'Damage'


Natter 47: My Brilliance Is Wasted On You People  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - Nov 03, 2006 5:43:23 am PST #7069 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Dodgy story about Ted Haggard.

The president of the National Association of Evangelicals resigned Thursday after accusations by a male prostitute that the pastor paid him for sex over three years.

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I dunno, it sounds too wonderfully ironic to be true. I suspect that this could be a false allegation.


tommyrot - Nov 03, 2006 5:45:22 am PST #7070 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I dunno, it sounds too wonderfully ironic to be true. I suspect that this could be a false allegation.

Well, I just read that voice analysis of voicemails left on the prostitute's phone have proven to be Haggards.

eta: OK, a voice expert believes it's Haggard.

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beekaytee - Nov 03, 2006 5:56:08 am PST #7071 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

I dunno, it sounds too wonderfully ironic to be true. I suspect that this could be a false allegation.

This was my very first thought...as I was trolling through the myriad 'scandals' in the paper this morning. Looking at it from the macro view, the entire news cycle seems to be an endless series of I know you are, but what am I? t /peewee


Tom Scola - Nov 03, 2006 5:57:12 am PST #7072 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

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Haggard, 50, initially denied the allegations, telling 9News Wednesday night that "I've never had a gay relationship with anybody, and I'm steady with my wife. I'm faithful to my wife."

But KKTV in Colorado Springs reported that New Life Associate Senior Pastor Ross Parsley told a meeting of church elders Thursday night that Haggard had met with the church's overseers earlier in the day and "had admitted to some indiscretions."

Parsley told the elders that Haggard had said some of the allegations were true, but not all of them.


tommyrot - Nov 03, 2006 5:58:51 am PST #7073 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Parsley told the elders that Haggard had said some of the allegations were true, but not all of them.

Yeah, he didn't say which allegations were true. So is the true stuff the gay sex? Or the meth?


Fred Pete - Nov 03, 2006 6:00:14 am PST #7074 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Haggard has apparently admitted that at least some of it's true.

So says the Denver Post.


Fred Pete - Nov 03, 2006 6:02:33 am PST #7075 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

And, yes, what tommyrot said.

Though whatever of it's true, I won't cry to see a major homophobic voice take a fall.


lisah - Nov 03, 2006 6:02:45 am PST #7076 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

We also still had a milkman when I was really little, like under six.

My grandparents owned a dairy store and delivered milk & juice up until 1981 (I think that was the year the store closed). They also made ice cream at the store! They didn't deliver that although my grandfather would bring it from Delaware, packed in dry ice, up to my mom and aunt when they were in college in New York.


beekaytee - Nov 03, 2006 6:02:54 am PST #7077 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Huh. Some but not all. Sounds a lot like "I DID not have sex with that woMAN."

Sigh.

Has it always been the case that winning politics hinges on mudslinging and scandal?

I wouldn't be at all surprised that this guy is lying to everyone, including himself. But the popularity context-fear mongering-scandal digging nature of our decision making process...especially when it comes to choosing leadership, just makes me sad.


Gudanov - Nov 03, 2006 6:03:17 am PST #7078 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

Haggard has apparently admitted that at least some of it's true.

Huh, so it could really just be that ironic. I wonder if he'll admit to having a drinking problem soon.