Thanks, Gus. No worries.

Include my possible misspell in quotes (I really can't tell) why don't you?!

I think you got it right, though.

I care about realistic expectations and security.

Well, you know that both of those are a crapshoot in any job, so. Maybe what you need is a government job!

omg, I totally do.

The last place at which I interviewed had a lot of people excited to work for the company. And the place looked great! Airy outside, with fountains and at least one great cafeteria, high cube walls, lots of on-campus amenities. Three weeks vacation your first year plus two weeks of company mandatory shutdown annually.

If it weren't so damned far from me, I'd be more excited about it. But I'm rooting for another sweet job with proud employees that's closer.

Both sets of interviews have made me look back at my last employer and roll my eyes. There is no way my department could have mustered that many people that psyched about the company and what the company does. No way in hell. Probably not in most of the company.

Here you go: [link]

Those people stop answering their phones at 4:40, for reals. Edit: to specify, I mean most of the employees I've tried to call in several city and state grantmaking offices.

jobs with beautiful campuses don't exist in NYC. Seriously the supprt staff at the big law firms and banks all are 8-5 or 9-5.

I am seriously gonna look at taking the civil service whatevers.

You were wondering, weren't you? I said a thing ... never mind.

I care about realistic expectations and security.

Wait. I thought we were talking about employment. Now I am confused.

I stopped at the grocery store on the way to buy something for dinner and milk, and somehow walked out with that, chips, beer, and sorbet.

I'd be disappointed in myself for not following the plan, but dude, now I have beer.

Hooray beer!

jobs with beautiful campuses don't exist in NYC.

Yeah--this campus is definitely a product of having started off in the boonies and then having civilisation come to them. They have 30 odd buildings on it, with thousands and thousands of employees. My mother laughs when I call things like that campuses, because she's a university employee on an absolutely beautiful campus (with ruins from the slavery days).

Actually, gov't jobs would probably be ideal for you, timewise and securitywise, msbelle. I mean, hell, I'm in a nominally gov't job (subcontract) that's highly dependent on year-to-year congressional whims (and things that could go boom) and despite the rounds of well-predicted layoffs which suck, it's pretty fucking hard to get overworked or fired unless you are really egregious. I mean, come Oct 31, I'll know what is coming next September, due to fiscal cycles.