You'll fight, and you'll shag, and you'll hate each other till it makes you quiver, but you'll never be friends.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Natter 47: My Brilliance Is Wasted On You People  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Vortex - Oct 23, 2006 6:28:33 am PDT #4932 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

The return of grammar:
I'm earwormed with "SexyBack," only now it's "I'm bringing grammar back...."

I’m bringing grammar back
Those participles don’t know how to act
If you dangle, I will make you crack
Watch me diagram your ass
Take it to the root . . .


Vortex - Oct 23, 2006 6:29:55 am PDT #4933 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

For ita and Ms. Belle:

Paint it pink


Steph L. - Oct 23, 2006 6:34:55 am PDT #4934 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I. Love. Vortex.

The comma today appears to be just as random sentence decoration, except here. Bless you all.

I edit the montly newsletter for a group I belong to; most of the articles are written by the president of the group. He abuses ellipses in 2 ways: (1) he uses them all the freaking time, and (2) I shit you not -- he uses commas instead of periods to make the ellipses.

It makes my head hurt and my eyes bleed.


Theodosia - Oct 23, 2006 6:48:56 am PDT #4935 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

We never diagrammed sentences in grammar school, but then my high school Honors English teacher spent a whole unit on it. At that point, I realized I'd gotten a leg up on my fellow students by having studied German where we'd spent most of our time on the grammar... so even though my retention of any useful knowledge of speaking German is nil, it really did pay off.

My teacher had us diagramming Shakespearean sonnets which presented really interesting problems, because they rely very heavily on Latinate construction which is about as far from modern discourse as you can get and still be intelligible. Suddenly a lot of these poems made sense to me.


tommyrot - Oct 23, 2006 6:49:02 am PDT #4936 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

The Power of Books

Photo... art thingie.


Kathy A - Oct 23, 2006 6:51:48 am PDT #4937 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

I don't remember ever diagramming sentences (but I was fascinated by the concept as seen in the Little House books, same as flea and Sophia), but we were drilled in identifying what the various parts of speech were, as well as the rules of grammar (never end a sentence with a preposition, never start with a conjuction, etc.). Nice to see that the English classes are bringing grammar back, though! From that article:

Grammarians are regarded as a rather grumpy lot. They decorate their classrooms with quotation marks rather than quotations, brood for hours over the staff memo that misuses the contraction "it's" and ply students with unpardonable puns. Greiner, in a recent lesson, elicited groans by invoking Santa's workshop while discussing the subordinate clause.

We're not grumpy--we're precise! We are also fun, as demonstrated by said use of grammar puns. Finally, as "it's" being misused is my biggest pet peeve, I have no problems with this description.


Jesse - Oct 23, 2006 6:55:25 am PDT #4938 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

(2) I shit you not -- he uses commas instead of periods to make the ellipses.

I've seen that around the interweb,,,,,,,it's weird.


tommyrot - Oct 23, 2006 6:58:19 am PDT #4939 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Finally, as "it's" being misused is my biggest pet peeve, I have no problems with this description.

Yeah, I've been seeing this problem more and more. Or else it's annoying me more than it used to. Mostly I see it on geeky computer sites like Slashdot and Digg, but I've been seeing it crop up more company websites too.


tommyrot - Oct 23, 2006 7:01:04 am PDT #4940 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

ION, Spock's mom had died: [link]

Jane Wyatt, the television actress best known to SF fans for playing Spock's mother in the original Star Trek series, has died, the Associated Press reported. She was 96.

Wyatt died Oct. 20 in her sleep of natural causes at her home in Bel Air, Calif., her publicist, Meg McDonald, told the AP. She experienced health problems since suffering a stroke at 85, but her mind was sharp until her death, her son Christopher Ward told the wire service.

Wyatt played Amanda Grayson, the human mother of the starship Enterprise's half-Vulcan science officer, in the original series episode "Journey to Babel" and reprised the role in the 1986 movie Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home.

To the broader audience, Wyatt was best known as Robert Young's TV wife, Margaret Anderson, on the 1950s series Father Knows Best.

[link]


Zenkitty - Oct 23, 2006 7:01:58 am PDT #4941 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I see "it's" and "its" being misused everywhere, including in the scholarly pubs I edit, and it drives me mad. Haven't yet seen ,,,,,, for which I am grateful.