Lorne: You know what they say about people who need people. Connor: They're the luckiest people in the world. Lorne: You been sneaking peeks at my Streisand collection again, Kiddo? Connor: Just kinda popped out.

'Time Bomb'


Natter 47: My Brilliance Is Wasted On You People  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 17, 2006 8:03:53 am PDT #3970 of 10001
What is even happening?

I'm very surprised that the median age for females getting married in 1890 is so high. In my genealogy, most of the girls at that time period were married before 20.

edit: Unless that figure is counting all marriages, which includes widows remarrying.

If you're talking about this chart [link] it says 'first marriage' so I don't think it does. I was surprised, too. I like (and think in) means more than medians, though. My maternal great grandmother was 14 when she got married (in the 1890s). Her daughter (my grandmother) was 17 when she got married in the 1920s. They were in Nova Scotia, though. It changed a lot in the next generation. Looks like my mom was nearly four years above the median, when she married at 24 in the 1960s. I was 3 years above the median, when I married at 27 in the 90s.

Stats people,

Is there a particular advantage to looking at the median, rather than the mean, in a table like the one linked above?


flea - Oct 17, 2006 8:05:41 am PDT #3971 of 10001
information libertarian

Question - does anybody know if there's a way to get TimesSelect coverage if you aren't an individual subscriber to the paper? We've (at work, in a library) found that Stanley Fish's columns, for example, aren't in the print edition, and don't make it into Lexis or Factiva. The library has a print subscription, but it's institutional and doesn't include TimesSelect (it's not an option).


bon bon - Oct 17, 2006 8:07:35 am PDT #3972 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I'm not surprised about the median figure because there's a much larger group of marriageable people on the older side of 20 than the younger side.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 17, 2006 8:09:55 am PDT #3973 of 10001
What is even happening?

That's why I'm wondering if there's another reason they're using median instead of mean.


Tom Scola - Oct 17, 2006 8:10:12 am PDT #3974 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Is there a particular advantage to looking at the median, rather than the mean, in a table like the one linked above?

The distribution isn't bell-curve shaped. There will be quite a few people getting married in their twenties, and it will tail off as people get older. While there may be only a few people getting married in their 90s, it will make the average much higher than the median, and misrepresent the data.


flea - Oct 17, 2006 8:10:36 am PDT #3975 of 10001
information libertarian

My guess (ex-cloaca) is that in 1890 people waited to get married until they could afford to set up their own households, i.e. in rural areas. It took a while to amass the cash to do that.


megan walker - Oct 17, 2006 8:10:37 am PDT #3976 of 10001
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

What I found interesting (and comforting I guess) in the marriage stats was the huge jump in the "Never Marrieds" found here: Percent Never Married 1970-2004


Jesse - Oct 17, 2006 8:10:48 am PDT #3977 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Is there a particular advantage to looking at the median, rather than the mean, in a table like the one linked above?

I think it guards against outliers, so someone marrying for the first time at 50 doesn't throw it off as much as it would in a mean. If you have 15, 20, 20, 20, 25, 25, 50, the median is 20, but the mean is 25.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 17, 2006 8:13:24 am PDT #3978 of 10001
What is even happening?

Okay, that makes sense. Well then, I want all these tables in median, mean, and mode.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 17, 2006 8:13:55 am PDT #3979 of 10001
What is even happening?

I also want a cookie for remembering 'mode'.