Zoe: Uh huh. River, honey? He's putting the hair away now. River: It'll still be there... waiting.

'Jaynestown'


Natter 47: My Brilliance Is Wasted On You People  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Oct 11, 2006 7:41:01 am PDT #3076 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

ION, I totally just blew off some coworkers who wanted to have lunch together, by accident! I just forgot. Ah well.


tommyrot - Oct 11, 2006 7:48:04 am PDT #3077 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Cursive writing rapidly becoming passé

WASHINGTON - The computer keyboard helped kill shorthand, and now it's threatening to finish off longhand.

When handwritten essays were introduced on the SAT exams for the class of 2006, just 15 percent of the almost 1.5 million students wrote their answers in cursive. The rest? They printed. Block letters.

And those college hopefuls are just the first edge of a wave of U.S. students who no longer get much handwriting instruction in the primary grades, frequently 10 minutes a day or less. As a result, more and more students struggle to read and write cursive.

Many educators shrug. Stacked up against teaching technology, foreign languages and the material on standardized tests, penmanship instruction seems a relic, teachers across the region say. But academics who specialize in writing acquisition argue that it's important cognitively, pointing to research that shows children without proficient handwriting skills produce simpler, shorter compositions, from the earliest grades.

Scholars who study original documents say the demise of handwriting will diminish the power and accuracy of future historical research. And others simply lament the loss of handwritten communication for its beauty, individualism and intimacy.

This just seems weird to me. Only 15% of the next batch of college freshmen use cursive? Wow.


Jessica - Oct 11, 2006 7:51:20 am PDT #3078 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Huh. I'm not sure using SAT essays is the best way to measure what percentage of college freshman can write in script -- I always did essay tests in block letters because I didn't want to risk the teacher not being able to read my writing, not because I didn't know cursive.


Pix - Oct 11, 2006 7:52:04 am PDT #3079 of 10001
The status is NOT quo.

I'm not at my most alert and focused today.

HA! Coffee not workin' for ya, lady?


Allyson - Oct 11, 2006 7:55:30 am PDT #3080 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

My brother is pretty hardcore dyslexic, and had trouble writing until he learned cursive. Something about connecting the letters helped.

Oh, oh, and to brag, I have excellent handwriting.


§ ita § - Oct 11, 2006 8:00:48 am PDT #3081 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I am hardcore cursive. By block letters you just mean lowercase but not joined up?

I used to have bad enough handwriting that teachers mocked me for it. Then I had good enough handwriting that strangers complimented me on it.

But, boy, when it was bad it was horrid.


amych - Oct 11, 2006 8:01:14 am PDT #3082 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I'm a cursive writer since before I was officially taught to do it, and I find it almost impossible not to use cursive (as I keep rediscovering every time I have to fill out forms by hand). On the other hand, based on my totally unscientific looking-over-people's-shoulders impressions, I'm not too surprised at the death of cursive. And it's always seemed to me that people tend to be strongly one or the other.

(Other random handwriting observation: it's common in a lot of places not that are not here to teach kids to write in cursive from the start. I'm not sure what effect that would have on the claims of cognitive development blah blah, but it was one of those little "I never thought of *not* doing it this way!" shocks.)


flea - Oct 11, 2006 8:03:56 am PDT #3083 of 10001
information libertarian

I have been told I write "calligraphically". Interestingly, my handwriting is MUCH better when I write with an ink pen than when I write with a ballpoint. MUCH. My normal handwriting is a mix of cursive and printing - some letters connect and some don't.

Also, to me "block letters" would imply ASSCAPS.


Jesse - Oct 11, 2006 8:04:21 am PDT #3084 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

By block letters you just mean lowercase but not joined up?

I think of block letters as being basically small caps.

I have a ridiculous semi-cursive way of writing, like I'm really printing, but too lazy to pick up the pen. Although I write by hand less and less anymore.


juliana - Oct 11, 2006 8:05:54 am PDT #3085 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

This just seems weird to me. Only 15% of the next batch of college freshmen use cursive?

I was taught cursive from the beginning and discarded it just as soon as I was allowed to. I could never write in cursive as prettily as I could when printing.