Pay range info is so helpful too in figuring out what level of person they're really looking for, too. Again with the time wasting and the glayvin.
I like books. I just don't want to take on too much. Do they have an introduction to the modern blurb?
Buffy ,'Lessons'
Natter 47: My Brilliance Is Wasted On You People
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
brenda m - Oct 06, 2006 11:35:09 am PDT #2479 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
ChiKat - Oct 06, 2006 11:38:41 am PDT #2480 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
That and "salary conmessurate with experience."
What does that even MEAN? Just friggin tell me what figure you're starting at. Don't make me apply, call me for an interview, and tell me you want the whole world on a silver platter for 26K. Allysons start at 45K, yo.
I'm having problems with this right now. I'm interviewing for 3 different positions (I'm the interviewer). We ask for salary history, but most won't give it. If they look promising, I call and do a phone interview, part of which is a salary requirement question. Again, some won't answer.
Recent college grads are delusional. I've had more than 1 person who has just graduated, no real work experience (waitressing at Chili's does not really count) and say they need, minimum, $40K+. Now, if you're in a highly trained area, you would probably get this or more, but not in marketing. C'mon.
Kalshane - Oct 06, 2006 11:42:18 am PDT #2481 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
Recent college grads are delusional. I've had more than 1 person who has just graduated, no real work experience (waitressing at Chili's does not really count) and say they need, minimum, $40K+. Now, if you're in a highly trained area, you would probably get this or more, but not in marketing. C'mon.
But they need their shiny new SUV and condo and their Bulls season tickets to go with their new life as an adult, don't you know?
Jesse - Oct 06, 2006 11:44:14 am PDT #2482 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Pay range info is so helpful too in figuring out what level of person they're really looking for, too. Again with the time wasting and the glayvin.
Seriously.
Recent college grads are delusional. I've had more than 1 person who has just graduated, no real work experience (waitressing at Chili's does not really count) and say they need, minimum, $40K+.
Ha! Even in New York.
Although, I can't believe the girl who works for me hadn't already quit here (although it really is a good place to work). It was her second job out of college, she's been here two years, and was still making bupkis. Luckily, she just got a huge raise. She's still making a relatively crappy salary (it is nonprofit, after all), but SO MUCH BETTER than it was.
Scrappy - Oct 06, 2006 11:45:28 am PDT #2483 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
I've had folks respond to an ad which specified "entry level" with requests for 80k a year. WTF?
Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 06, 2006 11:46:06 am PDT #2484 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I've had more than 1 person who has just graduated, no real work experience (waitressing at Chili's does not really count) and say they need, minimum, $40K+.
If someone's going from a job waitressing at Chili's directly into the salary range it took me 16 years of skilled white collar work to get to, I hope it's because she saved a CEO from choking to death at one of her tables.
Allyson - Oct 06, 2006 11:46:50 am PDT #2485 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Part of the reason I get a little nervous about putting my salary history on the cover is I'm afraid the job starts at 50K but they'll say "whoot! we got her for a bargain!"
Or maybe it starts at 42K, but there are awesome benefitsthat even it out, like a better retirement plan or more vacation time or the ability to work from home a couple days a week.
It's all so sketchy, but I give them what they ask for.
Jesse - Oct 06, 2006 11:49:37 am PDT #2486 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
IMO, cover letters should have a range you're looking for, not your salary history. I mean, aren't you looking for a bump up? Yes you are.
I've had folks respond to an ad which specified "entry level" with requests for 80k a year. WTF?
Are they... lawyers? Doctors?
ChiKat - Oct 06, 2006 11:50:59 am PDT #2487 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
I've had folks respond to an ad which specified "entry level" with requests for 80k a year. WTF?
Same here.
If someone's going from a job waitressing at Chili's directly into the salary range it took me 16 years of skilled white collar work to get to, I hope it's because she saved a CEO from choking to death at one of her tables.
Seriously.
I am continually amazed at what people do when they respond. Most notably, they don't read the listing. I'm hiring researchers. The ads specificially say we're doing marketing research. I get buttloads of medical researchers responding. Ummmm...no.
Allyson - Oct 06, 2006 11:51:00 am PDT #2488 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I've had folks respond to an ad which specified "entry level" with requests for 80k a year. WTF?
Maybe I can make extra money by teaching a class on "what you can expect to make, and how much you'll have to bend over, after graduation."
"Hey, you! You with the Communications degree! You'll be getting 500 bucks a week to get lunch for David Greenwalt! This will afford you a bachelor apartment in the valley without a kitchen, and an '86 Honda."