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-t - Dec 10, 2025 9:01:46 am PST #7336 of 7343
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Man, you were right, Jess, this is a great adaptation! I'm glad I went right from reading to watching so the text is fresh in my head because it is kind of astounding how faithful it's managing to be

Also impressive how very clear it is exactly what is happening just off-screen or otherwise out of sight. Wow.


Jessica - Dec 10, 2025 1:14:48 pm PST #7337 of 7343
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm taking it on faith that the timeline changes will work out in the end, but what I was most worried about was getting the characters and their relationship dynamic right and everyone involved is absolutely nailing it.

(Ahem. So to speak.)


-t - Dec 10, 2025 3:23:39 pm PST #7338 of 7343
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

There is absolutely a lot of nailing

I thought the dates were not what I expected sometimes but I did not pay close enough attention to that (while reading or watching) to suss out why that might be. The only change I noticed and am not sure of is that they went to Shane's actual house (apartment? whatever) in Montreal and book!Ilya imagining what it was like and asking Shane about it was nifty


Jessica - Dec 10, 2025 5:13:21 pm PST #7339 of 7343
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The Scott/Kip stuff in ep3 is happening much earlier in the show than it did in the books, which means there must be other adjustments to make later events line up the way they need to.


-t - Dec 10, 2025 6:17:44 pm PST #7340 of 7343
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, yeah, that's true. You know, while I was reading I kept flipping back and forth between chapters trying to keep the timeline straight in my head but I just let that all fly out the window for the show. They could be very mean about how that plays out, I suppose, I hope that doesn't happen


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 11, 2025 9:27:55 am PST #7341 of 7343
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Was the first book in the series not also the first in chronological order? I thought Francois Arnaud's character was a main character of the first book.


-t - Dec 11, 2025 9:52:55 am PST #7342 of 7343
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

The second book spans a period of time before the first book as well


Jessica - Dec 11, 2025 10:34:34 am PST #7343 of 7343
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The series is chronological except for the 2 Shane/Ilya books, which together cover the entire timeline of the series. So Game Changers (Scott/Kip) the book takes place over a period of about 6 months inside the timeline of Heated Rivalry. (And the show has those events about 3 years earlier than they happen in the book.)


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