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Premium Cable: The Cursing Costs Extra

[NAFDA] A thread for the discussion of all original programming on HBO, Showtime, Starz and other premium channels.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


DebetEsse - Dec 17, 2020 9:41:09 am PST #7264 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

So, we finished Lovecraft Country over the weekend. The finale was kinda anti-climactic...but the season was quite good, if falling into many of the genre frustrations ("Have you people considered talking to each other? PLEASE?").

Not sure how I feel about S2...I kinda hope they don't bring in another couple guys, but I'm sure they will.


Vortex - Dec 17, 2020 5:26:26 pm PST #7265 of 7329
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Lovecraft Country had some flaws, but I loved it. As a proud blerd, it was really terrific to see characters of color anchor a genre series. I loved the juxtaposition of the power in the magical world vs. the lack of power in the "real" world. Also, the music was incredible.

I'm looking forward to the next season.


DebetEsse - Dec 17, 2020 8:00:52 pm PST #7266 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Agreed. The balls and style of the soundtrack were great, and the show wouldn't have been nearly as good without it (I kind of wish that Christina had ended up on the moon at the end, as a callback to "Whitey's on the Moon"

Also agreed on the flaws (which, as with nearly any show, I could go on about At Length), but I appreciate that we're starting to get to the point where POC-anchored genre shows don't have to be above reproach to be worthwhile. And there were some moments that, even as a White lady, I could see the resonant points that they were hitting, without the show-as-show taking a hit.

I do struggle with Montrose...I think they would have been better off not having had Yahima (sp?) at all than doing the plot they did.


Vortex - Dec 17, 2020 8:30:34 pm PST #7267 of 7329
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Montrose was INCREDIBLY problematic for me. I wonder if they processed the optics of his accepting his sexuality while his partner was in drag, and then rejected him the next morning in boy clothes. And I really had an issue with the fact that he murdered Yahima, Tic beat him up, and then nothing was ever said again. WTF? Although the writer has fully acknowledged that she did not treat the character of Yahima well.


DebetEsse - Dec 17, 2020 8:35:21 pm PST #7268 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

It will be interesting to see how he takes Tic's directive going forward. I hope he doesn't just think he has license to be shitty to Letti.

Also, I mean, they have fucking magic. They could bring Yahima back without even very much hand-wavium.


Jessica - Dec 21, 2020 11:39:27 am PST #7269 of 7329
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Is this where we talk about Harley Quinn? (Everyone needs to be watching Harley Quinn. It is so good.)


Tom Scola - Dec 21, 2020 11:46:48 am PST #7270 of 7329
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I mostly loved it, although I still hated how they portrayed Jim Gordon, and to a lesser extent, Babs.


DavidS - Dec 21, 2020 12:11:45 pm PST #7271 of 7329
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Is this where we talk about Harley Quinn? (Everyone needs to be watching Harley Quinn. It is so good.)

It is so good! For me (maybe for nobody else) there's a clear line from The Tick to Venture Bros. to Archer to Harley Quinn. Deep fannnish affection for the genre that explodes the weirdness and fucked-upedness of it in increasingly raw fashion. (This association is probably reinforced by things like Clayface sounding a LOT like Baron Orpheus, etc.)

It's not only incredibly funny, the characters are extremely well defined and their relationships smartly drawn out. It's got laughs and emotional heft.

I mostly loved it, although I still hated how they portrayed Jim Gordon, and to a lesser extent, Babs.

I kind of loved how they portrayed Jim Gordon.


Tom Scola - Dec 21, 2020 12:14:46 pm PST #7272 of 7329
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Jim Gordon is the rock that keeps Batman grounded, not the other way around!


DavidS - Dec 21, 2020 12:46:26 pm PST #7273 of 7329
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Jim Gordon is the rock that keeps Batman grounded, not the other way around!

Jim Gordon's an alcoholic who's got a lot of fucking issues!