What the fucking fuck, GRRM would never have done that, fuck this show. Ugh.

Some good/interesting stuff in this episode but ugh.

And remember, the real victim in all of this is the person who has to watch it. Hey, wait, that's us!

Yeah, I have a hard time believing that Sansa's move would not have been to stall the wedding, or at least attempt to.

GRRM has been intimately involved in the storylines of the show so I doubt very much they would have pulled that Sansa scene out of nowhere. Still, that was brutal. I guess from Sansa's POV she'd dodged the bullet twice, and this was inevitable. Fuck.

Wolfram, your premise was true for the first few seasons, but I don't know that it is at this point.

At the AVClub, the "Show Only" recap gave it an A-, while the "Books Included" recap gave it a B-.

Wolfram, your premise was true for the first few seasons, but I don't know that it is at this point.

Yeah, after both this and the Jaime scene, he's had to resort to diplomatic "The show is not the books, they are different, they made different choices [that I cannot publicly condemn because my name is attached to the series and I have to keep working with these people]" posts.

I have been concerned about Sansa's story heading this way since they basically have been subbing her into the book spoilers Jeyne Poole storyline. It was kind of inevitable and it certainly could have been worse. Still it annoyed me. Given what we know of Littlefinger both in book world and show world, it just doesn't seem like he would've let it go down like that, if not for Sansa herself, then at least for Catelyn. And there's no way with all his spying and scheming that he'd not be aware that 1) Ramsay is a sociopath and 2)marital rape is kind of a thing in this world, therefore 3)Sansa + Ramsay + Marriage = rape at best or something much uglier at worst. Uh uh.

I am still grooving on Arya's storyline, though. That girl is the business.

ITA, kat. I understand why they are putting minor characters' stories from the books on characters we know on the show, but this particular one was not, in my opinion, a good choice or handled well. Totally does not fit my understanding of Littlefinger (which is not much, he's pretty peculiar, but still there are a few things I think I know).

I do appreciate her refusal to acknowledge that Theon is anyone she would be happy to see under any circumstances. But it's a tiny little comfort.

Arya's adaptation, otoh, I am loving. Seeing all those faces in storage is amazing, and the game is well presented.

I withdraw what I said earlier about GRRM knowing or approving the Sansa storyline. (His lack of acknowledgement in his blog post that he approved or was consulted about the scene means, to me, that he didn't know.)

kat and t, I agree with both of you that this does not seem to fit with Littlefinger's motivations in either world. I hated that they went there with her. Not that it's any better to go there with Jeyne Poole but, it just sucks.

Also loving Arya stuff.

Has it been two weeks since we saw Daenarys? It seems like forever.

Last night's ending was horrific, but I can't agree that it was out of character for Littlefinger to set Sansa up like that. The only thing that separates him from Joffrey and Ramsay is better acting. He's utterly without morals.