Now, I can hold a note for a long time...actually I can hold a note forever. But eventually that's just noise. It's the change we're listening for. The note coming after, and the one after that. That's what makes it music.

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Jessica - May 10, 2014 4:56:55 am PDT #5825 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

While we may all hope that she develops a backbone and might make a claim to her own power...ain't no evidence to back that up.

I think there's excellent evidence to show that if she did stand up for herself and try to claim power, her head would be on display in front of the castle gates next to her father's. Being a pawn right now is the smartest game she could play.


-t - May 10, 2014 5:02:59 am PDT #5826 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

She is doing an excellent job of staying alive, which is not exactly the Stark's strong suit.


Amy - May 10, 2014 5:11:24 am PDT #5827 of 7329
Because books.

I agree. Sansa learned pretty quickly how to survive, and that's not nothing in Westeros. Her little moments of rebellion and strength are pretty quiet, but they're there -- even handing Tyrion the cup at the wedding was something a spoiled or stupid "pawn" wouldn't have done.


§ ita § - May 10, 2014 7:09:27 am PDT #5828 of 7329
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

GRRM gave Sansa an amazing turnaround. That might be the thing I like most about the series--how snottily impractical and annoying she was at the start, and how incredibly sympathetic she is now, having had her every dream destroyed and struggling through immense emotional distress.

None of the surviving Starks have it easy, but I think she's been in the most constant danger and had the most emotional development of all of them (although Jon Snow might no longer know absolutely nothing, I put Bran second--Arya is kind of stalling with her quest for vengeance--a lot is happening to her, but I don't feel she's grown up the same way as either of them--she just started out a fan favourite).


Tom Scola - May 11, 2014 5:25:59 pm PDT #5829 of 7329
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Yay, Braavos.

Angry Tyrion is pretty fucking hard core.


Amy - May 11, 2014 5:31:23 pm PDT #5830 of 7329
Because books.

I hope Tywin or someone threatened Shae. That was cold.

I do like Oberon. His conversation with Varys was very interesting.

Also, dragon! That was unexpected.

Oh, and Theon! God, that was so painful, and nerve-wracking. Rmasey is insane.


Hil R. - May 11, 2014 5:37:30 pm PDT #5831 of 7329
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Angry Tyrion is pretty fucking hard core.

Indeed.


-t - May 11, 2014 5:44:17 pm PDT #5832 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Bravos! Dragon! I do feel bad for the goats, but a dragon's gotta eat.

I have a lot of feels re: Theon and Tyrion.


Sean K - May 11, 2014 6:49:40 pm PDT #5833 of 7329
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Was that Mark Gatiss (Mycroft Holmes) as the Iron Banker?


beekaytee - May 11, 2014 7:10:29 pm PDT #5834 of 7329
Compassionately intolerant

Yep.

I'd know that voice anywhere.