I'm sorry, dad. You know I would never have tried to save River's life if I had known there was a dinner party at risk.

Simon ,'Safe'


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Amy - May 04, 2014 6:04:05 pm PDT #5767 of 7329
Because books.

Yeah, the Podrick and Brienne scenes were great.

I also found myself pitying Cersei tonight, between her very honest talk with Maergery and her request of Prince Oberon. I just can't believe that she *really* believes Tyrion killed Joffrey, and I'm not sure what good she thinks it will do to punish him for it.

Hodor!


-t - May 04, 2014 6:08:58 pm PDT #5768 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

The Cersei Maergery talk was great.


Sean K - May 04, 2014 7:12:43 pm PDT #5769 of 7329
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I love Pod so much.


le nubian - May 04, 2014 7:36:44 pm PDT #5770 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I just can't believe that she *really* believes Tyrion killed Joffrey

She can't bear to think of the other possibilities.


kat perez - May 04, 2014 8:46:45 pm PDT #5771 of 7329
"We have trust issues." Mylar

Brienne and Pod are cute and all, but Arya and the Hound still rule everything. Arya Stark, man. I want her to survive this whole mess probably more than anyone else.


Jessica - May 05, 2014 3:44:29 am PDT #5772 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I was really surprised at how early we got the And Littlefinger Has Been Behind Everything The Whole Time reveal in this ep!! Doesn't that happen much later in the books?


-t - May 05, 2014 3:48:06 am PDT #5773 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yeah, much later.


Hil R. - May 05, 2014 9:13:12 am PDT #5774 of 7329
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Cercei's line about how there isn't a place in the world that doesn't hurt little girls was painful. And also, kind of a theme for this episode, since, as DebetEsse pointed out to me, we checked in with pretty much all of the "little girl" characters in this episode -- Arya, Meera, and Sansa all got significant screen time and plot bits, and we heard more about Myrcella than we have in a while.


Jessica - May 05, 2014 9:43:11 am PDT #5775 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

as DebetEsse pointed out to me, we checked in with pretty much all of the "little girl" characters in this episode -- Arya, Meera, and Sansa all got significant screen time

Oh, nice catch.


DebetEsse - May 05, 2014 12:41:54 pm PDT #5776 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

So, that was a whole lot of "not in the books" but I think that it all moved characters' arcs along nicely.

I liked Bran making the choice to continue his quest even when he had another option. I like that the show is calling out the ickiness of him warging Hodor (edited to fix autocorrect all over the place). It seems like that's gonna come back on him at some point. I was seriously afraid for the survival of either/both of the Reeds, as well as Hodor.

Jon got to kick some ass, show leadership skills, and get his wolf back. Too bad the effects budget couldn't support more interaction between Jon and Ghost.

And I'm rather glad to see the end of Locke.

Danny's going for her "Ruling" badge. It's a shame none of her advisors have much experience there. My brother was pointing out that there are (I'm going to call thing a book spoiler, but more by implication than anything explicit) few and fewer people left in Westeros who know how to fight a war competently. We still have some who can plan battles, but the players of the chess game find their numbers rapidly dwindling. I think the same could be said for ruling.

Lovely scene with Cersei and Margaery (and the decision to NOT dispense with pretense). And the observation that Tommen might be the first deserving king in 50 years, which is an interesting thing to say. In the books, he's too young for us to make that call, I think, so that will be another one where I look forward to see it play out. Also lovely were the Cersei-Oberyn and Cersei-Tywin scenes. I am looking forward to upcoming developments in Kings Landing.

Poor Sansa. She doesn't even get a week in the Aeyrie before the crazy comes out to play. Is Robin the same kid? If not, I'd have gone younger with that casting. Sansa, much like Cersei, is in some serious need of allies. Sadly, she is even less equipped for it than Cersei.

Further, fuck you, Petyr Baelish. You need to die painfully.

Oh, Arya, honey. I do hope that honor gets some of its own back eventually. We had three scenes in the past two eps about the value of fighting dirty. Anyone else find the (book spoily implications) S differentiation between Sandor and The Hound brought to mind?

I want to know who in the writing team realized that Pod would have fuckall in the way of knight-in-the-field support skills. That was fantastic. I think I am going to enjoy the Pod and Brienne Show, as well as all the fic where she gives Jaime shit for sending her off with a crappy squire. I will enjoy that a lot.