Forgot Myrcella was the middle child. But she is still a girl putting her in the bottom WRT sucession. And she's in Dorne, and the only representative of Dorne at the wedding was Oberon, yes? And him recently arrived in KL w/o many contacts who could get near the King's table. Not many partisans in her camp (figuratively speaking.)

I have given far to much thought to how Margaery would go about getting pregnant once married to Joffrey. Of course she would have to let him in at least once (ugh) to make any pregnancy possibly legitimate. After that she would need someone who looks like a Lannister. Perhaps some as-yet-unheard of cousin. Lancel might be easy, but he also has loose lips and seems more Loras' type than hers. Jaime would be easier to blackmail into silence, especially now that Cersei is spurning him. It would be a great challenge, but she is lady ready for most any challenge (even marrying Joffrey.)

eta: I sit with D_E wrt the possibility of Margaery being the intended target.

Plenty of blondes at the brothel.

True dat, but a gigilo would have to killed afterwards to prevent him spilling the story. There's a beautiful poetic justice in making the King's Uncle/Father complicit in treason.

Ok, weird, I popped over the ASoIaF wiki and re Myrcella it says something along the lines of "she is commonly thought to be" the only daughter of Robert and Cersei.... Commonly thought to be??? Is there some reason to think Cersei is hiding children???? I feel like I missed something.

Whatever awfulness comes Petyr's way will be no more than he deserves.

Marg clearly was in no ways involved. Olenna likely was. Tywin...might have been.

Oh, look, Tywin cares about history. I wonder where Tyrion got that from. Ahem.

I am side-eyeing the writers REALLY hard at the re-imaginging the Sept Sex.

Erin, Robert had nothing to do with her, genetically. People only think he does.

Ooooh k, thought there might be something more nefarious that I had entirely missed other than alternate fathering which is hardly a spoiler at this point.

She's the most passive pawn in this game and seem lacking in any ability to help herself.

I don't think this is true. She's not actively making any moves, but she's learned a hell of a lot about how to protect herself, and how to listen and observe. If (when?) Sansa has some numbers behind her, I think she could be pretty formidable.

My dream is a triumverate of Arya, Sansa, and Dany, with Brienne as the head of the guard, not that I expect that to happen.

I thought it was pretty clear who killed Joffrey after tonight's episode, too.

And I don't know what happened in the book, but Jaime and Cersei beside Joffrey's dead body was pretty foul. I couldn't understand her at the end -- was she saying she wasn't ready, and he was saying he didn't care?

I did have to give some points for objecting to killing his brother, though.

My dream is a triumverate of Arya, Sansa, and Dany, with Brienne as the head of the guard, not that I expect that to happen.

Well, all men must die, after all.

Jaime and Cersei beside Joffrey's dead body was pretty foul.

That is NOT how that went down in the book. AT ALL. If you can't tell, I have Issues with it.

She was saying "It's not right" And yes, he was saying "I don't care."

Peter Dinklage: Such a bad accent. So fucking awesome.