Well, a gathering is brie, mellow song stylings; shindig, dip, less mellow song stylings, perhaps a large amount of malt beverage, and hootenanny, well, it's chock full of hoot, just a little bit of nanny.

Oz ,'Beneath You'


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DebetEsse - Mar 20, 2014 1:42:25 pm PDT #5550 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Yes. The casting on that show, in general, is just phenomenal.


Sean K - Mar 20, 2014 5:07:45 pm PDT #5551 of 7329
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I realize that this comment probably more properly belongs in Literary, but since I brought up the subject of GoT...

I am very curious about the maesters, at this point. We know so little about them as an organization, beyond external trappings. In particular, I am very curious as to why the (apparently) only two even remotely honorable and competent maesters we've seen (Luwin and Aemon) were assigned to the ass end of the north.

I find myself wanting to know SO much more about Luwin in particular. Who was he? Where did he come from? Why was he such a good man in comparison to, say, Pycelle? Did he want to serve at Winterfell? Or was his character what got him assigned there, either to keep him out of the way, or to keep an eye on something important? Did he have a say?

And Aemon. What a curious man, particularly for a Targaryen.


DebetEsse - Mar 20, 2014 5:23:06 pm PDT #5552 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

See, I view the less-reputable Maesters we've met as symptomatic of the corrupting power of, well, power, particularly in Pycelle's case. I think Luwin, much like Ned, was only able to be a good, honorable man because he was so far away from the game of thrones (and its parallels within the church, on the Wall, and at Old Town).

I am looking forward to the vague future when we'll get to see more of Old Town.


Sean K - Mar 20, 2014 5:51:12 pm PDT #5553 of 7329
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Me too!


Sean K - Mar 20, 2014 5:52:27 pm PDT #5554 of 7329
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Also, I like your take on the maesters. That makes a lot of sense.


DebetEsse - Mar 21, 2014 10:18:00 am PDT #5555 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Thanks. I just checked my recollection against the wiki (LOVE the wiki), and Aemon specifically went to the Wall to not only be out of the line of succession, but entirely out of the Game.

I feel like honor, love, and power is the big thematic triangle of the series, with various characters charting more toward one point or another. But also with the different institutions trying to reduce/eliminate one or more of the factors in order to strengthen the others. We've seen the Watch a good amount (which cuts family ties and power outside of the organization), but less of the church or the maesters, who seem to keep much more power, as organizations.

I am working really hard not to gush spoilers and speculation all over the place. "If Jon..." "When Brienne..." "Lena Hedley..." "After Sam..." "ARYA!"


DebetEsse - Mar 26, 2014 2:42:34 pm PDT #5556 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Big, massive spoiler referenced in the WF.

ISTG, the cast must have some kind of contest or bet about making statements that point big flashing arrows away from Lady Stoneheart. e,g. things about never getting to work with any of the people in the Red Wedding again. And far more often than seems like would be naturally-occurring.


sumi - Apr 02, 2014 6:20:02 am PDT #5557 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

Ha. I bet you're right DebetEsse.

Episode titles:
4.1 - Two Swords
4.2 The Lion and the Rose
4.3 Breaker of Chains
4.4 Oathkeeper
4.5 First of his name
4.6 The laws of God and men
4.7 Mockingbird
4.8 The mountain and the viper
The watchers on the wall
4.10 The children.

I think I have a method to watch episodes. . . I think. Late but better than waiting a year.

The episode titles are making me happy. Particularly, 4.1, 4.8 and 4.9. . .


sumi - Apr 02, 2014 6:32:24 am PDT #5558 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

My thoughts on the titles (where I have them and they're book spoilery - for all books):

Two Swords: The sword that Tywin gives Joffrey and the one that Jaime gives Brienne.
The lion and the rose: purple wedding (so to speak)
4.4 - Brienne?
4.6 - the wall, perhaps-something to do with Melisandre's king burning
4.7 - Littlefinger centric
4.8 - Trial of Combat!
4.9 - election, no?
4.10 - possibly a Bran-centric thing? That would definitely go to Dance with Dragons territory. And possibly Jon switching babies and sending Sam and Gilly to Old Town.

The Maesters - they provide a form of standardized education for the aritocrats (at least) and possibly for others. And they also stand for science vs. magic.


Sean K - Apr 02, 2014 10:50:01 am PDT #5559 of 7329
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I think the title for 4.5 is my favorite. It certainly brings a smile to my face.