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le nubian - May 02, 2013 8:35:13 am PDT #5072 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I agree with you. His strategy decision-making has been really fucked since his decision to marry.


Jessica - May 02, 2013 8:48:27 am PDT #5073 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

His strategy decision-making has been really fucked since his decision to marry.

It's been really different looking at this on the show vs the book, since in the book he's not a POV character so we either see his actions via Catelyn's POV, or hear about them third-hand when other characters talk about how the war is going.


Sean K - May 02, 2013 8:54:40 am PDT #5074 of 7329
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Robb would be so much better off if he decided to cut his losses, claim that two dead Lannisters somewhat makes up for a dead father, go home to rebuild Winterfell and sit out the Winter. Sunk cost fallacy seems to be driving his actions at this point.

His main problem with doing that, which I think they've mentioned on the show but not enough to make it clear, is that Greyjoys hold the Neck - a choke point separating the North from the rest of Westeros. Even if he wanted to just call it a draw and go home, he can't. Not without a costly fight anywhere he turns.

Not that this explains his really poor decision making of late, but it makes just going home problematic.


§ ita § - May 02, 2013 10:59:20 am PDT #5075 of 7329
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I was about to restart Spartacus when I realised I didn't understand:

Gods of the Arena is the subsequent prequel, then you have Vengeance, which follows Blood and Sand (with the new Spartacus actor), then War of the Damned is the final season.

Are you saying I should watch Gods, then Vengeance, or Gods then Blood and Sand then Vengeance? (I've finished Gods, have Vengeance, wondering if I should wait and acquire Blood and Sand first--still don't know what the closing scene of Gods meant)


Theodosia - May 02, 2013 2:09:43 pm PDT #5076 of 7329
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Good point, Sean. Though I get the feeling that the Greyjoys are wusses when it comes to actually keeping landlocked property, and for sure if you have troops/lords whose loyalty is wavering, getting them all pointed in the direction of home is a way to get everyone to cooperate better.


Matt the Bruins fan - May 02, 2013 2:22:35 pm PDT #5077 of 7329
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Are you saying I should watch Gods, then Vengeance, or Gods then Blood and Sand then Vengeance? (I've finished Gods, have Vengeance, wondering if I should wait and acquire Blood and Sand first--still don't know what the closing scene of Gods meant)

You should definitely watch Blood and Sand before Vengeance. Gods was set first chronologically, but it was actually filmed second after Blood and Sand to keep production running while Andy Whitfield underwent treatment for cancer.


-t - May 02, 2013 3:26:08 pm PDT #5078 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

But Robb didn't go to war seeking vengeance for Ned's death, he went to war because Ned's execution demonstrated Joffrey's unfitness for the throne. You know how Starks are.


erin_obscure - May 02, 2013 3:31:56 pm PDT #5079 of 7329
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

And Joffrey isn't even Robert's biological son, therefore he shouldn't inherit the throne per noble Ned.


Jessica - May 03, 2013 6:04:07 am PDT #5080 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Technically Robb went to war because Tywin went to war against him after Catelyn kidnapped Tyrion, and then Joffrey and Cersei threw Ned in a dungeon for treason. He had already called his banners before Ned was executed.


Jessica - May 03, 2013 7:48:10 am PDT #5081 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Pop quiz - Whose butts have we seen?

I missed one (and would argue that this character's nude scene did not show them from the back, so no, we did not see his/her butt).