Lorne: Once the word spreads you beat up an innocent old man, well, the truly terrible will think twice before going toe-to-toe with our Avenging Angel. Spike: Yes. The geriatric community will be soiling their nappies when they hear you're on the case. Bravo.

'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


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Amy - Apr 01, 2013 11:45:05 am PDT #4837 of 7329
Because books.

I loved how much Cersei clearly loathed Maergery.

I guess Ghost stayed with the Watch when Jon went off. Was that addressed last season?

Yeah, that surprised me.

I also had a really hard time understanding a lot of the dialogue Beyond the Wall, which was annoying. I think it was a combination of bad sound editing and dialogue spoken too quickly in too many different accents.


DebetEsse - Apr 01, 2013 11:46:19 am PDT #4838 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I'm not sure. I couldn't tell if they were going for "she speaks the language" or "she's using context clues to determine that he is even more of an asshole than is obvious from the information the translator is telling her." It seemed like it could go either way.


Theodosia - Apr 01, 2013 11:49:52 am PDT #4839 of 7329
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Ghost knew he'd have to stick around to save Sam?

So much happened, and yet we haven't seen like half of the cast yet!


DebetEsse - Apr 01, 2013 11:54:50 am PDT #4840 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Well, clearly someone needs to.

I know! Where is my Arya?


Jessica - Apr 01, 2013 12:37:07 pm PDT #4841 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Debet, highlight if you've read the books: SPOILER. It's revealed in a future ep.

One main difference between Margery and Cercei is that Margery is in control of her life in a way Cercei never was. Cercei is ambitious in a vague sort of I-wish-I-were-my-brother/father way, but she doesn't really know what do with the power she has. Margery has actual goals and plans to achieve them.


DebetEsse - Apr 01, 2013 12:48:15 pm PDT #4842 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Jessica, I thought that might be the case. I was imagining "bitch, you can't sell a dragon" in his own language. Book spoilers for speculation based on things that have not happened (yet).

I would agree with that, although I'd probably phrase it differently, as I see it as a difference in them, rather than their situations (which "in control of her life" connotes, at least in my head). Margaery didn't get dealt any better of a hand, really. She just knows how to play her cards better. Which...is pretty much what you said.

Thematic/family dynamics spoilers (including characters we haven't met yet): Tyrion is really the only one of Tywin's kids who has any aptitude for strategy, and Tywin sure wasn't going to help him figure out what to do with that aptitude. On the other hand, I'd bet that Margeary got a right proper education from her grandmother, who would have known in a way that Tywin wouldn't that honey is damn effective for a woman. Cersei wants to be her father, but that just leads to no one liking her OR respecting her (even if they're afraid of her)


Jessica - Apr 01, 2013 12:49:30 pm PDT #4843 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Not speculation in my case, I've seen through ep 4.


le nubian - Apr 01, 2013 1:13:09 pm PDT #4844 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I read the white font because I'm teetering on comprehension anyway and I don't think it will ruin the show for me. I'm glad to read it because that makes things a bit more interesting.


DebetEsse - Apr 01, 2013 2:08:51 pm PDT #4845 of 7329
Woe to the fucking wicked.

LeN, if you have questions, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would be happy to explain/expand stuff.


le nubian - Apr 01, 2013 2:17:50 pm PDT #4846 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

part of the problem is that I have a problem with character names, so I really just need a picture book next to me. The first season, I read the wiki, which spoiled me but because I can't keep stuff straight, the spoilers did not matter.