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Jessica - May 07, 2012 7:37:58 am PDT #4432 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Maybe instead of the Reeds following them out of Winterfell, they'll all go and seek out the Crannogmen instead of heading north.


-t - May 07, 2012 7:47:52 am PDT #4433 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That would make sense. Bran should know Howland Reed was a great friend of his father's, and Osha would be reluctant to go north, I would think.


Sean K - May 07, 2012 11:43:19 pm PDT #4434 of 7329
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Finally watched the ep and can catch up in this thread!

I think I need to reread the Harrenhall chapters in the book because I don't remember most of Arya's storyline, and I can't tell if it's because my memory is swiss cheese or because it's been changed for the show.

Yeah, her storyline has been changed somewhat. I don't really remember well myself. I'm pretty sure some of the changes in her storyline are primarily to give Charles Dance more screen time, which A-FREAKIN'-MEN, ya know? But because we get more Tywin, we lose the uber-creepiness of Harrenhal where misfortune seems to befall all who try to hold it.

But it's Daenerys' storyline that's undergone the heaviest changes so far.

I have to say, I really love the way Benioff and Weiss have handled the changes, starting with the fact that they were so faithful in S1, and went a long way to earn the readers' trust. This season has seen some major departures from Clash of Kings, but each one so far has seemed (to me) to be done in a way that signals to readers that they're going to cover the important stuff, and not stray too far.

And yet for a second there afterward I almost felt some pity for Theon

I keep thinking back to that shot a couple of episodes ago, of Theon burning the letter to Robb. He seemed so small in his tiny pool of slowly dying light, surrounded by such a vast gulf of pitch black, closing in closer and closer to devour him. It was so freakin' perfect.

I mean, boo hoo, his dad doesn't love him. Welcome to the life of everyone in Westeros not fathered by Ned Stark.

INORITE? I mean, raised by the one guy in all of Westeros who ever treated other people decently, and this is how you repay him?

Do you think Shae is also from Volantis, or another of the Free Cities? I'm not good with accents, but they sounded kind of similar to me (Shae and whatshername the healer). All these foreign women lurking around the edges of the conflict - coincidence? Conspiracy?

I believe she is, and it's expressly stated so in the books somewhere, or at least strongly hinted at. And your conspiracy question is a question that has occurred me SEVERAL TIMES during the books, too. Because isn't the woman who gets to be besties with Cersei in Book 4 also from Volantis?

sumi and -t, I've been missing the Reeds a bit too.


Theodosia - May 08, 2012 2:47:21 am PDT #4435 of 7329
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

In the drinking game in S1, did Shae deny being from nobility too? I can't remember.


Jessica - May 08, 2012 3:52:43 am PDT #4436 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

This season has seen some major departures from Clash of Kings, but each one so far has seemed (to me) to be done in a way that signals to readers that they're going to cover the important stuff, and not stray too far.

Yeah, none of the changes they've made so far would prevent any of the characters from arriving at the big important moments, just from slightly different angles.

Interesting theories re: characters from the Free Cities! I'll just point out that that list also includes Varys.


sumi - May 08, 2012 4:57:53 am PDT #4437 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

Sean - I think you're right! about the woman who becomes besties with Cersei.

Hmmm, its amazing how many different conspiracies there are or may be.


Jessica - May 08, 2012 5:00:33 am PDT #4438 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Myr, not Volantis - [link]

(Book spoilers behind link.)


sumi - May 09, 2012 11:14:22 am PDT #4439 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

Peter Dinklage on the cover of Rolling Stone.


Vortex - May 11, 2012 2:05:23 pm PDT #4440 of 7329
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Is anyone watching Veep? Can't decide if I like it or not.


Jessica - May 11, 2012 2:32:11 pm PDT #4441 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm watching, and love it, but I've been a fan of Iannucci (and the rest of this writing team) for ages, since their British series The Thick of It. He basically does one thing - bumbling vulgar politicians - but he does it so very, very well.