I hope you don't think that I just come over for the spells and everything. I mean, I really like just talking and hanging out with you and stuff.

Willow ,'First Date'


Premium Cable: The Cursing Costs Extra

[NAFDA] A thread for the discussion of all original programming on HBO, Showtime, Starz and other premium channels.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Sean K - Apr 23, 2012 8:51:00 pm PDT #4370 of 7329
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

The torture scenes were really too much for me. This is why I can't watch movies like Hostel or Saw.

They didn't quite ping me, but came close. I actually had more of problem with Deadwood and the episode where Kristin Bell was murdered. It was brutal enough that it almost put me off the show entirely.

As for Saw and Hostel, I'm actually quite fond of the Saw movies, particularly the first couple. They are gory, but they're not torture porn. They are (for me) very clever, and Jigsaw is a great horror villain, particularly because he never actually does any of the violence himself. He puts his "victims" in situations and lets the situations play themselves out. (Also, I put the word "victims" in quote because, like the old EC Horror comics such as Tales From the Crypt, the "victims" are usually rather nasty pieces of work who rather seem to deserve the punishment heaped upon them.)

I've never been particularly interested in the Hostel movies however, for much the same reason you are not. However I have recently read some rather well written defenses of what Eli Roth is trying to do with the Hostel movies that have made me question this stance.


sumi - Apr 25, 2012 10:43:38 am PDT #4371 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

I watched the first episode of Magic City.

And then when I started watching the 2nd one, I realized I just didn't care and deleted it.


Amy - Apr 25, 2012 10:45:37 am PDT #4372 of 7329
Because books.

Aw, sumi, no. Really? Is it actively bad or just meh?


sumi - Apr 25, 2012 11:16:58 am PDT #4373 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

I just didn't really like any of the characters enough.


Amy - Apr 25, 2012 11:24:49 am PDT #4374 of 7329
Because books.

Damn. He looks so good in the stills I've seen, and I thought the set porn would be fun. But it's not like I'm signing up for Starz anytime soon, so.


beekaytee - Apr 25, 2012 4:27:53 pm PDT #4375 of 7329
Compassionately intolerant

I just didn't really like any of the characters enough.

This was my experience of Magic City. I wanted to love the costumes and ambiance but the characters are not compelling and the story is just unrelentingly dreary. The dialog is really clunky too.

I was really disappointed because I have liked JDM in other things. In this, his character is so weak and dishonorable, I just couldn't care what happened to him.

Plus, and I get that this is a weird quibble but, in the first episode something happens to the main character's wife that everyone, including JDM's character...who professes to love her to distraction...handles despicably. It makes her look stupid and shallow, which is totally counter to how her character is set up.

[whitefont] JDM gazes out over the hotel pool and sees the wife's white poodle floating, dead. He calls a lackey to 'go get another one and make sure it's a girl this time', as if dogicide is a normal and recurring mob thing. The wife never notices that her beloved pooch has been replaced.

Also, it might just be me, but the sex on this, as on other Starz shows, is so grimy and sordid that is just not enjoyable to watch.


Consuela - Apr 26, 2012 9:10:05 am PDT #4376 of 7329
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Vanity Fair has a sneak preview of the new Sorkin HBO show Newsroom: [link]


Jessica - Apr 26, 2012 10:01:27 am PDT #4377 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Dinner is coming.


-t - Apr 26, 2012 10:23:10 am PDT #4378 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

The man who eats the eggs should wield the pan.


-t - Apr 29, 2012 4:43:10 pm PDT #4379 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I really appreciate the way the GoT title sequences updates to show us places that are currently important. It's a nice touch.