I don't mind Sam and his shifter group, but I REALLY wish he'd been a better (or worse, if he was aiming to wound) shot last season.

I am interested in the shifters; I meant specifically Sam and his brother. The brother is still super annoying and apparently doesn't learn from his mistakes.

The brother is completely one dimensional, he has no redeeming qualities. He's out for himself at the expense of every/anyone else, he takes no responsibility for his actions or their consequences, and I don't see any reason for his character to be there. Sam would have enough screentime with his shifter friends and their issues.

tiggy,

thank you for that! so I have some questions.

what was Felton's rationale for trying to turn Jason? What was the general thrust of the fairy storyline?

You know, based on discussion here and my extreme distaste for the Jason storyline, I think I might FF through it in the future. It really is putting me off the show. I really would watch the Pam/Eric spinoff in a red hot minute. Particularly if it was set in Fantagsia?

Can someone explain to me how older vampires (such as Eric) are supposed to regard Bill as their "King?" Isn't that kind of an absurd situation? Sure this is a political situation, but there is a real power differential here in terms of strength.

What's his name is sterile, so they are trying to make panther babies. They bit him in hopes that he would turn werepanther. The bit at the end with whatshername bouncing on top of him and the girls lined up suggests that he is being used to propogate the race.

Can someone explain to me how older vampires (such as Eric) are supposed to regard Bill as their "King?" Isn't that kind of an absurd situation? Sure this is a political situation, but there is a real power differential here in terms of strength.

I suspect it's a political thing, kind of like how sometimes the most qualified person is not the boss.

And the whole panther thing has been changed from the very beginning of the story.

Disliked what they've done with the fairy storyline too.

Vortex but is that what the motivation was in the book?

Oh, I don't know, I thought that you had missed it in the ep.

Yeah I got that in the ep.

I must say the tv show does not have me pining for the books.

One thing I'm absolutely hating in the tv series is the use of guns against vampires. I don't care if they have wooden bullets, vampires are insanely fast and can just run away before a human even pulls the trigger. That's been used twice this season already. First with the queen and then with Tara threatening Pam. I have no clue why the queen just stood there and allowed herself to get shot.

I loved this line from the TWoP recap:

At which point Tara and Jesus storm Fangtasia! to save him, promise to hand over Marnie within 24 hours, and then Tara and Pam basically turn to the camera and scream at you, "We are going to do it with each other pretty soon!"

And wow, what does Alan Ball have against fairies? He totally destroyed that storyline!

le nubian - the books are completely different from the series. I'd recommend reading them after the series ends. I read them between the 3rd and 4th seasons and I find myself yelling at the show a lot more now than I did before. They really are a lot of fun. Just a fun, light read if you can get past the first book (which suffers from being too much like the tv show).