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-t - Jun 21, 2011 12:12:45 pm PDT #3747 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Well, sure, if she was gonna be perfectly reasonable and only take her anger out on who did her wrong. I can understand not being that reasonable.


Theodosia - Jun 21, 2011 2:45:05 pm PDT #3748 of 7329
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

FWIW, I can well remember my mother being very resentful that my aunt's foster daughter was taking away "attention" from my aunt's "real"* daughter.

*that's the way my Mom told it.

So, given the culture that Cat grew up in, I don't suppose it's surprising that she behaves as she does.


§ ita § - Jun 21, 2011 5:08:44 pm PDT #3749 of 7329
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I can understand not being that reasonable.

I can understand it, but I can also understand thinking your brother is the one or cutting off someone's tongue as a gesture of power. I don't like it, though, and I don't respect it. Be mad at the person that did something to you. Be mad at the missing mistress. Not at the really great kid.

He's isolated, and he's in need of a maternal figure and she was worse than an absent one--she was a negative.


-t - Jun 21, 2011 5:55:09 pm PDT #3750 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I don't like or respect it, either. Big old failure on her part. I just don't hold it against her.

I can't really empathize with cutting out tongues.


§ ita § - Jun 21, 2011 6:15:16 pm PDT #3751 of 7329
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

When I say I understand her behaviour, I don't mean I empathise with it, because I don't at all. I totally do hold it against her. I just get why she's doing it. I also get why Bieber is cutting out tongues. And I hold that against him.


-t - Jun 21, 2011 6:37:14 pm PDT #3752 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Fair enough. I do empathise with Cat, and with Sansa, and even with Cersei to some extent. I don't get Joffrey even on an analytical level.


sumi - Jun 21, 2011 7:28:14 pm PDT #3753 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

I think he's a sociopath. . in the books it is noted that he mutilated a pregnant cat as a child.


le nubian - Jun 21, 2011 7:47:27 pm PDT #3754 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

oh really?

how much detail did they provide in the book because I don't think I can read the books.


erin_obscure - Jun 21, 2011 7:50:46 pm PDT #3755 of 7329
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

no details, just mentioned as a past event that provoked Robert to great anger

eta: well, no detail of *that* incident. The books are super gorey on other events.


Rayne - Jun 21, 2011 8:31:24 pm PDT #3756 of 7329
"Oh no! Has falling sky liquid once again caused you the sadness?" -Starfire

From the book. It's not pleasant (it's not described in the book, just mentioned in passing). He's the kind of kid who likes to slice open pregnant cats to see the kittens. They also allude to the fact that he tormented his siblings in some fashion (no details were given though).

Oh, and preemptive squee for True Blood! Can't wait!