GoT - back to the Winter is Coming conversation:

"the Starks are always right eventually"

Dany's marriage night on the show--definite rape. In the books, do you think GRRM meant to convey consent issues?

In the book she wasn't unwilling...just scared. And the willingness was a matter of expectation - she always knew that her primary role in life was to bear royal children. To whoever her brother married her to (or to him, as per their family history.) So "consent" is fuzzy in an environment where girls are property, married off for political reasons, and expected to bear their husbands children as quickly and frequently as possible. Dunno if it was in the TV show, but in the books Viserys makes some comment to her about how he could give her to every male in the kalasar if he felt like it, she should be glad she was only being sold to the Khal himself. I don't imagine a woman raised with those sort of expectations would ever consider refusing.

eta: perhaps also worth noting that in the book she is 13 when married, so everything that happens to her is rape in our sense. The actress looks young and innocent, but not THAT young.

What erin said. And the line about giving her to every male in the khalasar and their horses was in the show, too. In the mindsets of both Daenerys and Drogo, what happened wasn't rape. Doesn't mean we shouldn't be repelled....

Loved the Tyrion and Jon Snow Show, and kind of wish we got the kind of story where they have wacky adventures together. (Notes to self that the slogan is Winter is Coming, not Wackiness Ensues.)

What are the ages on the show? I'm pretty sure Jon Snow is older than I read him, and it's confusing. A lot of my conclusions about Dany also hinge on her age, and I just can't tell.

Yeah, they aged up all the kids.

Dany is probably at least 2 or 3 years older than she was in the book - in the book she finds out she is pregnant on her 14th birthday. I think she is at least 16 in the show.

Arya was 10, Bran was 8 - Jon and Robb were 14 or 15.

At the very beginning of the first book Jon and Robb are the same age -14, Sana 11, Arya 9, Bran 7, and Rickon 3. I'm not surprised they have all been aged up - working with child actors is challenging, and the situations that the older children get put into kinda requires that they be played by legal adults. I was reading that book knowing a tv show was coming thinking that there was NO WAY Rickon could stay that young. A 3 year old on set having to say scripted lines? Good luck. Arya couldn't be aged too much, she still has to be clearly pre-pubescent.

A 3 year old on set having to say scripted lines? Good luck

Other shows manage it, though. I mean, I can see why you don't want to bother, but it's hardly unheard of. And you barely see the character.

I was confused by the aging up of Jon, because I was just reading the whole "are you sure you want to make this sacrifice?" bit where he's giving up what he doesn't know anything about. This Jon? Has totally tapped ass.

Have we ever seen Rickon?

I may be projecting from the books, but I do feel we have.

No, I got no citations.