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esse - Oct 10, 2006 1:06:44 am PDT #298 of 7329
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Weeds is in trouble. They need to be about something, pretty damn fast.

I suspect I'm going to find it far more together on the rewatch, when I can sit down with the whole season at once. Right now they seem to be bouncing from mini-plot to mini-plot, and while a lot of that is hilarious and interesting, it isn't really cohesive. But since I watch the show mostly for Andy (who is like so many friends I had but didn't know why I had them until they turned on the charm) and how Mary Louise Parker's hair is going to look each week, I don't really have a high bar.

Regarding Calamity Jane: we watched a lot of AMC when I was a kid, and Doris Day's portrayl of Calamity Jane has always been definitive for me. Yes, she was largely a caricature in that as well, but there was something in the way she played it, something about the eyes that showed she wanted something *more* than what she had there. Granted, the entire movie was essentially a plot to convinve tomboys to be nice little housewives, which the me of now recognizes. But she didn't brook any shit, you know? She was aggressive about what she wanted, and she wasn't an asshole. She just didn't have pretense. And so yes, okay, the real Calamity Jane was a drunkard and so was everyone else; hell, if I had to live in those circumstances, I would be too. But it lacks any enjoyment for me to watch a character, real or no, that represented something greater to me when I was a kid be portrayed as a dimwitted moron with no capacity for greater love and emotion than a puppy dog.


Sean K - Oct 10, 2006 6:05:26 am PDT #299 of 7329
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Doris Day's portrayl of Calamity Jane has always been definitive for me.

Ah! Yes, that would do it. A Doris Day Jane is about as far away from Deadwood's Jane as you can get. I'm sure I have similar examples of that sort of thing, but I can't think of any in my current, bleary, not quite awake yet state.


esse - Oct 10, 2006 6:09:05 am PDT #300 of 7329
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

And, you know, I watched it again when Gale Harold came on, because I have such love for my former Brian Kinney, but it just. Didn't grab me. Which is kind of sad, because usually I am right there with the shows people love at the time, but I just could never put it together right for Deadwood, I guess. That happened with Lost, too. I couldn't be arsed to watch it after, like, episode four.


Hayden - Oct 10, 2006 6:34:03 am PDT #301 of 7329
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

a dimwitted moron with no capacity for greater love and emotion than a puppy dog.

Oh, this kills me. I don't think you saw Robin Weigart's portrayal of Jane in anything close to the same light I did.


lisah - Oct 10, 2006 7:59:28 am PDT #302 of 7329
Punishingly Intricate

I don't think you saw Robin Weigart's portrayal of Jane in anything close to the same light I did.

seriously.


erikaj - Oct 10, 2006 8:15:14 am PDT #303 of 7329
Always Anti-fascist!

Yeah. Jane's troubled, but she can be deep. You didn't see her nurse somebody through smallpox.


Glamcookie - Oct 10, 2006 8:27:07 am PDT #304 of 7329
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Stands with Corwood, lisa, and erika. We're very pretty.

Seriously, though, it took several eps for me to get to the Jane love. The first couple of eps would have left me with the same impression as SA.

I watched it again when Gale Harold came on, because I have such love for my former Brian Kinney

Squee! Can't wait to get to these eps!! If only he could get it on with Bullock...


lisah - Oct 10, 2006 8:30:32 am PDT #305 of 7329
Punishingly Intricate

If only he could get it on with Bullock...

oh they came close. sort of.


esse - Oct 10, 2006 11:39:28 am PDT #306 of 7329
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

You didn't see her nurse somebody through smallpox.

No, I did. (Or the episodes with the girl-child who was orphaned and sick.) And it still didn't do it for me.

Seriously, though, it took several eps for me to get to the Jane love. The first couple of eps would have left me with the same impression as SA.

::shrug:: I watched through episode seven of the first season and couldn't get past it.

Really, I didn't mean to come in here and piss all over your show. Sorry, guys.


erikaj - Oct 10, 2006 11:54:22 am PDT #307 of 7329
Always Anti-fascist!

That's okay...you expected more heroic...less feet of clay. I can get that.