Every nightmare I have that doesn't revolve around academic failure or public nudity is about that thing. In fact, once I dreamt that it attacked me while I was late for a test and naked.

Willow ,'The Killer In Me'


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Polter-Cow - May 17, 2008 6:44:36 pm PDT #1699 of 7329
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Yeah, me too. I looked him up and realized he was also on Oz ! So that's actually how I first knew him.


Polter-Cow - May 18, 2008 2:59:45 pm PDT #1700 of 7329
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

This episode's Awesome Pit Scene: the chess lesson!

I'm really liking D'Angelo, too. He seems like a good kid in a bad business. Which worries me that he's going to meet a tragic end.

Speaking of tragic ends, Bubbles is pretty awesome. But he's playing a dangerous game! How has he not been found out yet?

Lester! Quietly going off and finding a picture of Avon Barksdale! I wonder what his deal is.

Motherfucking Deputy! I hate his stupid ass. Stop gutting the case!

And, what the shit, that's Omar? The awesome character everyone thinks is awesome? The bad guy who steals from other bad guys and shoots kids in the kneecap ?? I am going to have to wait and see why people like him so much. I had always assumed he was a cop, one of the good guys.

Daniels is dirty?? Shit! Right after I said I liked him, too.


-t - May 18, 2008 3:01:42 pm PDT #1701 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Hee, watching P-C watch the Wire is very fun.


erikaj - May 18, 2008 3:11:28 pm PDT #1702 of 7329
Always Anti-fascist!

Daniels *was* kinda-sorta dirty. In the Simonverse, everybody is. It's all in the game. But he's *pretty* clean, right? You'll find out the awesome that is Omar, but if you're looking for total white-hats, switch to the West Wing.(I wanna write a Clay Davis/WW crossover someday. Sheeit.)


Polter-Cow - May 18, 2008 3:23:23 pm PDT #1703 of 7329
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Daniels *was* kinda-sorta dirty. In the Simonverse, everybody is. It's all in the game. But he's *pretty* clean, right?

He seems pretty clean now ! I did get that the implication was more that he had been dirty. That of course does call into question his relative cleanliness now, especially for the idealistic McNulty. (What is with McIdealists? McNulty, McManus...)

You'll find out the awesome that is Omar, but if you're looking for total white-hats, switch to the West Wing.

Ha. Good lord, erika, I love Oz. I obviously don't need total white-hats!


erikaj - May 18, 2008 3:39:11 pm PDT #1704 of 7329
Always Anti-fascist!

I always thought it must be some kind of shout-out that both Oz's McManus and Homicide's Bayliss were both Tim.(Somewhere Barry Levinson's college roommate who was too sweet to live, gets the shoutout.)

I don't know that Bushy Top wears it on his sleeve like McManus, and you'll find he doesn't have much of a political ethic.(That doesn't stop him from getting laid at Parents' Night, but I digress.)

Ok, you're good then. Lots of people are not comfortable with a showrunner that calls the American ExperimentTM a "Ponzi scheme" so I thought I'd prep you some...don't mean to get all lecturey and stuff, and don't get me wrong, I loved when Toby Ziegler saved Social Security in the dead of night and shit, but on "The Wire" he'd have been SO fired. (Not Following The Chain Of Command.)

ETA: It's clear from this that I love Bushy Top, right? So much so that I wrote an essay about it, not that you should read it now if you want to stay unspoiled.ETA2: My feelings about McManus are a bit more complicated as I am a total McManus and totally believe I could save the world with my liberal wisdom even when the world wants me to fuck off.

Which is different from Jimmy...does it piss off the bosses? Cool...Jimmy's into that, even if it's stupid.


Hayden - May 18, 2008 6:04:15 pm PDT #1705 of 7329
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

He won't even know who Bushy Top is for another two seasons.


Polter-Cow - May 18, 2008 6:25:59 pm PDT #1706 of 7329
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Oh, I thought she was calling McNulty Bushy Top for some reason.


erikaj - May 18, 2008 6:52:55 pm PDT #1707 of 7329
Always Anti-fascist!

yes. Although that's true, somebody gave it to him that you don't know. I suppose I've gotten used to thinking of him that way.


Polter-Cow - May 18, 2008 11:12:33 pm PDT #1708 of 7329
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Episode four has no Awesome Pit Scene! Well, not a funny one, at least. D'Angelo's retelling of his old murder was not funny. But good.

Bodie's juvie has the WORST SECURITY EVER. I...I can't even call him Bodie. That feels so wrong. He'll always be Wangler to me.

Omar's a gay badass ? Huh. That's new.

I loved that basketball scene because it was like, "Here are a bunch of black dudes we've never seen before. And this guy appears to be putting a price on Omar's head while he's shooting hoops. Is that...?" And then he mentions his nephew, and that's all we need to confirm it. They don't even need to have anyone address him by name; we know we've finally seen Avon Barksdale. And he looks kind of normal for a drug lord.

Bubbles is great, but I find him so sad. That scene when McNulty drops him off, it's like...I wish they could put him up somewhere or something.

Why is Lester so awesome?? He just goes off and advances the case forty steps and comes back all unassuming-like. AGAIN. Next thing you know, they'll notice Lester's gone and he'll just come back with Avon in handcuffs and go back to painting his tiny furniture.

The scene where they only say "Fuck" and its variations was awesome. I had heard about it, but it was a minute into it before I realized that's what it was. They just kept on going! Who needs another word when "Fuck" does it all?

I wasn't really sure what was going on in that desk scene. Was he not supposed to be bringing it in?

So the woman at the soccer game was McNulty's ex-wife? Then the woman...oh, bollocks, the woman from the last episode must have been the woman he cheated on her with, huh.

I have no idea what the hell the fat masturbating cop was talking about. It seemed like he went in to complain about McNulty, but he was just saying he was a good cop. What the hell was he asking for?

This show reminds me of State of Play.