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Polter-Cow - Apr 23, 2008 11:46:16 am PDT #1626 of 7329
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Has she? As far as I can tell, she lost her friend Bill. And she's a drunk. Who slurs all her words and speaks to everyone in the same brash tone. And I still have no idea why she's like that or what purpose her character serves, since she doesn't do anything.


erikaj - Apr 23, 2008 12:08:42 pm PDT #1627 of 7329
Always Anti-fascist!

Well, in a culture that says, okay, little girl, wife or prostitute, she is surviving without being either. Maybe not in a way we want to emulate, but she puts one boot in front of the other(except when spirits make that, uh, challenging.) The older I get, I respect that. And I get the impression she saw some shit in her indian-scout days, but I'm not sure how explicit canon is about that. Not as much as the Doc at Antietam, but she's got some scars.


Polter-Cow - Apr 23, 2008 12:11:58 pm PDT #1628 of 7329
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

That is a point. I find it amusing that my favorite female characters are two whores and a gimp.

But I also find it interesting that Deadwood appears to have a lot of women on the writing staff.


Scrappy - Apr 23, 2008 12:16:38 pm PDT #1629 of 7329
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I like that she has a layered character that doesn't fit the wife/whore stereotype . She has a very soft heart which she inexpertly protects by being brash and loud. She doesn't like people much, but protects children and can masterfully nurse the sick. She can shoot and hunt and spit but was also unable to keep from making moon eyes at Bill. She wanted Bill to see her as a woman, but wouldn't dress like one or try to look "attractive." She has strength when dealing with disaster, but can't stay sober on an everyday basis. I like her a lot.


erikaj - Apr 23, 2008 12:16:58 pm PDT #1630 of 7329
Always Anti-fascist!

(Bracing for P-C Wire "I hate Bubbles," posts. But if that happens, I might have to hit you. A vague disclaimer being nobody's friend, and all.) I never realized till I typed that they reminded me of each other. Except Jane had Bill, not Steve Earle.


Polter-Cow - Apr 23, 2008 12:21:11 pm PDT #1631 of 7329
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Scrappy, those are all also good points. I just find her manner extremely off-putting; I really can't stand the way she talks. I like her in the occasional moment, however. I really liked her scene with the NG, how she was completely unfazed by what anyone might think of her for sharing a drink with him.


amych - Apr 23, 2008 12:34:59 pm PDT #1632 of 7329
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

HOW CAN ANYONE HATE BUBBLES?


erikaj - Apr 23, 2008 12:42:18 pm PDT #1633 of 7329
Always Anti-fascist!

Well, I hope they don't, amych. That shit is fucked up. Bubbles is Us, right? But I thought Jane is pretty beloved, too. So.


Polter-Cow - Apr 23, 2008 2:26:03 pm PDT #1634 of 7329
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Oh, Yankton is an actual town in South Dakota. I always thought it was some sort of "Yankee" euphemism.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 23, 2008 2:54:01 pm PDT #1635 of 7329
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I find it amusing that my favorite female characters are two whores and a gimp.

I'm not. At all.

eta Because they were three of my favorite characters too (if I'm right in who you mean).