And Kaylee, what the hell's goin' on in the engine room? Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?

Mal ,'The Train Job'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Cass - Apr 01, 2007 7:39:38 pm PDT #9250 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I watched Pollo Loco from S1, for Ben. Damn, Ben-era JA really was Sam, wasn't he? Alec is much closer to Dean.
I really need to rewatch through again but I kinda have a soft spot for Ben. Granted, he'd slice me open starting in that weak spot and then take my teeth, but I kinda like the boy. So broken, but he tried to make sense of things.

Alec was definitely more Dean. Bless his cocky little grin.


sumi - Apr 01, 2007 7:40:31 pm PDT #9251 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Damn, Ben-era JA really was Sam, wasn't he

Do you think that's why they originally had JA read for Sam?


Cass - Apr 01, 2007 7:41:43 pm PDT #9252 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I dig Ben. In my polyamfic heart.


Beverly - Apr 01, 2007 7:47:27 pm PDT #9253 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Yeah, I do, Sumi.

Ben is a child, though. He's stuck there. There's no sexayy in Ben, unless I was...fourteen. Maybe eight.


Kate P. - Apr 01, 2007 7:56:36 pm PDT #9254 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

OMG, new Doctor Who !!! My world makes sense again! I freaking loved this episode. I miss Rose with all my heart, but I'm totally digging smart, competent Martha, and I'll be interested to see how their relationship plays out. Good chemistry between them. I liked the kiss and I also liked the reason given for it, that he did it to save a thousand people's lives -- for me, that was perfectly balanced on the borderline between flirty and serious, or between casual and romantic, which is something I think this show (usually) does very well.

Word to Fiona and JenP on the villains looking like Vogons -- that cracked me up. And re: the Future Episode Title, I agree that there's no way they're not intending it as a Douglas Adams reference. I don't know how far they'll go with the ref., but I have hopes. Ooh, maybe Martin Freeman will guest star! t goes to happy place


Cass - Apr 01, 2007 8:14:39 pm PDT #9255 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Ben is a child, though. He's stuck there. There's no sexayy in Ben, unless I was...fourteen. Maybe eight.
I get a huge disconnect between the way Ben was portrayed in exposition and flashbacks and the way that JA played him. The character is talked about as a child but JAasBen strikes me different. Still really broken and not at all grown up, but older.

This makes me a bad person, doesn't it?

My tv watched the wrong channel for DF earlier. So I am catching the replay coming up.


P.M. Marc - Apr 01, 2007 8:18:30 pm PDT #9256 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Also, Alec is much hotter than Ben, or at least he was before the show turned into an anti-sex polemic (IIRPlei's phraseC) and stripped everyone of any sex appeal.

That is my phrase for it! Yep.

I mean, okay, the Big Bad? A centuries-old BREEDING CULT.

Up against the lab-created Manticore kids.

The central couple thwarted by a virus that makes her touch fatal to him. Yet at the end of the season, rather than either of them moving on, even for just physical comfort, it's all sexless gloved hand-holding.

There's the thread of Dogman/Blind Girl Love Untainted By The Physical.

Max's nightmare in Boo, leading to her decision to reject adult fun in favor of hanging with Joshua.

One could, if one were bored enough and have enough unstructured free time, spend hours looking at the various ways in which the show shows us that Sex Is Bad, Mmkay? Not that I have. No really, of course not.

I swear, by the end of the season, I was missing Sweeps Heat something awful.

Not that Sweep Cagefighting is ever a bad thing.


Beverly - Apr 01, 2007 8:22:01 pm PDT #9257 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I found it amusing that "young Ben" was played by an actor named James Kirk.

...easily amused.

Mmm, cagefighting.


esse - Apr 02, 2007 12:47:20 am PDT #9258 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

New Doctor Who!!!! WF: I like Martha a lot! I mean, I love Rose, but I like that Martha seems to have the potential to keep up with Ten, whereas he and Rose always felt slightly out of sync. To me, anyway. I love love love his human impersonation with the plasmavore, "Rhino thingies!" and all. I love Ten's bare feet, and Martha's sheer goreousness. I thought her family was quite funny too. Most of all I loved that Who did what it does best, which is couch something seemingly microcosmic in something much, much bigger, thus making you realise just how large the universe it. And the episode in particular seemed to have alot of HGttG refs, which were not lost on me.

I kept having to stop the show to squee. Oh SHOW!


WindSparrow - Apr 02, 2007 3:49:58 am PDT #9259 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

SA, I liked that ep. of Doctor Who, too. It just seemed Sooooo classic Who, and yet definitely in touch with the last two seasons. Here are some shippy thoughts: I don't mind that Martha would have a crush on the Doctor. I liked shipping Rose and the Doctor, and I liked the idea that whether they were bumping uglies or no, they were soulmates on a level that the Doctor rarely has with his companions. Then again, I didn't mind that they used Sarah Jane and Mme du Pompadour to show that all companions are special, he loves 'em all, even if Rose is more special than others. But I wonder if all his flirting with Martha above and beyond the meaning-nothing kiss is going to pan out to indicate that he's just a big ol' Flirt Flirt Flirt Flirty McFlirterson to everyone, or if they are trying to put out the purposeful 'ship vibes into the whole series, retconning him from mostly asexual in his past incarnations (though I _always_ figured the Doctor and Romana were going at it like bunnies when they weren't busy doing anything else) into having the Doctor be an enormous slut. Huh. Maybe the sluttiness is a residual effect of the post-Time War trauma.

ION, I had a dream that CFerg was coming to town, and I tried to get tickets to an Indians game for him - but my mother talked me out of that. Instead I ended up going to a Special Olympics tee-ball game with her and my older brother, where she proceded to not leave room on the bleachers for me, then get mad that I went and sat on the other side of my brother to get away from her. And then I couldn't even see the game. Hmm, I wonder if this was really more about P-C than about me or CFerg.