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'Lineage'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Polter-Cow - Mar 29, 2007 1:56:25 pm PDT #8966 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I liked this bit:

No word yet on how their devious scheme to refuel a Raptor with booze while taking a memo about having sex with Starbuck will actually play out long-term, but I'm sure it's very sneaky. They're Cylons, after all.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 29, 2007 3:13:17 pm PDT #8967 of 10001
What is even happening?

In LiveJournal, fabu discusses an interesting (meta) topic in Squees, rants and everything in between. A sample:

jlh points out that a common cultural assumption is that those who like something have a less examined, less thought-through reaction than those who don't like it. As someone who tends to focus my analysis and thought on things I *like* (if I don't like something, I mostly just lose interest, so I don't spend a lot of time analyzing why it didn't work for me), this assumption really gets my goat.

This is something I've been thinking about a lot, lately. I've yet to read any of the posts she's linked to. Has anyone else read them, or fabu's post? Thoughts?


smonster - Mar 29, 2007 3:20:01 pm PDT #8968 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Ha! Adama Trauma. Love it. Shorter than "Lee's emo manpain," and it rhymes!

I may stay up for the WnP. Undecided.


-t - Mar 29, 2007 3:32:46 pm PDT #8969 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Haven't read fabu or links, but

a common cultural assumption is that those who like something have a less examined, less thought-through reaction than those who don't like it.

This is something I tend to think about myself when people seem to have good reasons for disparaging something I like - that I haven't examined that closely. It isn't anything I ever think about someone else.


Strega - Mar 29, 2007 3:42:38 pm PDT #8970 of 10001

"Adama and the Angst" is another thing that made me slap myself and say "How did I MISS that one, damn it?"

I hate him. In a loving way.

jlh points out that a common cultural assumption is that those who like something have a less examined, less thought-through reaction than those who don't like it

I think it's equal on both sides, honestly. The flip side is, "Oh, you don't get it because you're shallow and it's SO DEEP if you really think about it." Both are kind of grating. I won't claim I've totally avoided doing that, because I'm sure that's asking for trouble, but I do made an effort to avoid saying "you're (overthinking it/not thinking about it enough) if you disagree with my take."

I mean, unless it was, like, "The exploding spaceships here are AWESOME and if you don't agree, go away" where I'm clearly reveling in the shallowness.

Er. Anyway. LJ conversation is kind of a different thing, since there I expect to see more personal "How can you NOT love the spaceships?!" stuff in a personal journal/blog than I would in a general forum where you have to be more diffident. Even if the line between the two is getting increasingly hazy.


smonster - Mar 29, 2007 4:13:00 pm PDT #8971 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

"Adama and the Angst"

...and I just now got that. Wow.


Polter-Cow - Mar 29, 2007 4:18:30 pm PDT #8972 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

and I just now got that. Wow.

It took me a while too. I stared and stared and then it hit me.

How can you not love the spaceships? Honestly.


P.M. Marc - Mar 29, 2007 4:48:14 pm PDT #8973 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

This is something I've been thinking about a lot, lately. I've yet to read any of the posts she's linked to. Has anyone else read them, or fabu's post? Thoughts?

I've been following it all closely, because I am Metafandom's bitch. Sadly, this doesn't mean I have thoughts.

I mean, beyond the usual, "Why do people fail to get that there's a difference between saying, 'hey, don't be an ass, even if you disagree with what someone's saying in their LJ,' and 'hey, don't express negative thoughts ever.'"

LJ conversation is kind of a different thing, since there I expect to see more personal "How can you NOT love the spaceships?!" stuff in a personal journal/blog than I would in a general forum where you have to be more diffident. Even if the line between the two is getting increasingly hazy.

The hazy is a large, large, spaceship-sized part of the issue. I mean, for me, and for an increasingly large number of fic reading and writing media fans, LJ is our main fannish space. But it's also, y'know, *our* space. Which can and does lead to all kinds of wacky expectation and boundary issues.


Jessica - Mar 29, 2007 5:03:20 pm PDT #8974 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

a common cultural assumption is that those who like something have a less examined, less thought-through reaction than those who don't like it

Huh. I see the opposite more, at least in fandom -- disliking something is often seen as evidence of not understanding it, of being dismissive.


P.M. Marc - Mar 29, 2007 5:16:45 pm PDT #8975 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Huh. I see the opposite more, at least in fandom -- disliking something is often seen as evidence of not understanding it, of being dismissive.

I think it depends on where in fandom you're looking and which source text you're discussing.

I'd have cattier remarks on this (because seriously, there are times when fannish people make my eyes roll out of my head due hypocrisy around this topic), but I'm sick, and lacking in wit tonight.