You know, my thesis that skinjob Cylons don't get "made" might still fit -- if it turns out that they "start" as normal humans born with an ability to interact with the Cylon god and Cylon reincarnation.

This would explain why Tyrol was able to find the temple on the algae planet, wouldn't it? On the other hand, he seems to have really detailed memories of his parents, which wouldn't seem to indicate he could have been 'planted'.

Note that Sharon's realization she was a Cylon wasn't accompanied by auditory hallucinations and in fact, she had blackouts where she sabotaged.

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I am sad that the trial scenes failed to deliver the old "Dr. Baltar, you are out of order!"/"This whole TRIAL is out of order!"

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Hmm. I need some details about the blanket pardon. What was the verbage and where was Baltar at the time of pardon?

We didn't get any indication that Baltar had the dream, did we? Because that makes him the only person in the dream that didn't have the dream.

Assuming we have met all the remaining final five, who are now our prime candidates for the fifth? Baltar, Laura, Starbuck? If the first two, why didn't they get triggered with the other four?

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I'm really not seeing the crack here, or the LSD. I think it was great.

If Chief is Cylon, why aren't the human model Cylons flocking to his and Cally's baby like they're doing to Hera?

I think it's because none of the other Cylons even know who the Final Five are or what they look like, so they have no idea there's already a hybrid humlon baby. Right? Other than ESP, they have no way of knowing that Hera isn't, in fact, the first humlon.

Right. I think Cally's baby might not be Chief's baby, though.

She was one of the leaders of the human resistance on New Caprica. (Making Roslin the only resistance leader not currently outed as one of the Final Five.)

Those shared dreams make me mighty suspicious of Madame President. I mean, it makes the most sense that Kara's a Cylon, but I kind of don't think she is, and I would love Roslin to be one. It would turn the whole idea on its head in new and exciting ways.

The thing that's been bugging me is: why *don't* the Cylons know what the Final Five look like? Shouldn't they have been, you know, around when they were created? D'Anna's number is Three, so unless the model numbers have nothing to do with the order they were made in, the Threes predate at least two of the Final Five.

There could be two sets of numbers. They could have been kept separate. The numbers could mean something other than order.

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Baltar, Laura, Starbuck? If the first two, why didn't they get triggered with the other four?

Roslin's been on the dope, again. She might have mistaken the music for a dope induced hallucination. Also, she sort of a had a moment of WHOA as the Galactica got really near the Nebula.

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She might have mistaken the music for a dope induced hallucination

Or the chamalla is interferring with her wifi so she can't pick up the same XM radio channel the other 4 are listening to.

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I think that Baltar was still on with the Cylon fleet at the time of the pardon. (But it was a blanket pardon -- did it really only cover people who were in the fleet at the time?)

The pardon came at the end of the "Collaborators" episode.

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What Cylon numbers do we know besides: 3 = D'Anna; 6 = The Capricas; 8 = Sharon/Boomer/Athena etc.? Do we know any others?

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The guy who is not Leoben or Dean Stockwell or Rick Worthy (the black doctor) is 5.

Sort of makes it sound like a logic puzzle, doesn't it?

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I was actually just commenting to DH the other day how odd it is that we only know the female Cylons' numbers. The men (Doral, Cavil, Leoban, Simon) all have names only, unlike Caprica (6), Boomer (8) and D'eanna (3). I doubt it really means anything (I mean, I doubt the writers sat down and said "Hey, what if we only numbered the CHICKS! Because ______!!!!!!"), but it's kind of interesting.

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The guy who is not Leoben or Dean Stockwell is 5.

Oh, really? I'd forgotten that. Oh well.]

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