I'm not evil again. Why does everyone think that?

Angel ,'Sleeper'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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juliana - Mar 23, 2007 9:04:01 am PDT #8612 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

James & Lars are both 43, 'tis true. They kinda look it, too. Metallica was formed in... '81?

I don't define Metallica as "classic rock", though they are a classic.


Jon B. - Mar 23, 2007 9:07:26 am PDT #8613 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Wikipedia is your friend: [link]

Kirk is 44. Newish bassist, Robert (the Suicidal Tendancies guy) is the youngest at 42.


§ ita § - Mar 23, 2007 9:35:36 am PDT #8614 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I can see where Sam would want to wait a month, and I can see where she wouldn't. She's a killer. Killed more than one person. For a good person, that's hard to live with, and the fear of doing it again could drive someone to suicide.

I wonder if the boys have added anything to lore. I mean they go out and do the work, but have they learnt anything new to pass on to the other hunters?


Nutty - Mar 23, 2007 9:39:25 am PDT #8615 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Lore seems to be incredibly poorly distributed, overall. The closest we've ever seen to a trading post or general information clearinghouse is Ellen's bar, and that's not so great, you know? Nobody seems to write stuff down. It's all oral transmission of knowledge, sometimes facilitated by phone, but -- Consuela and I were speculating once, and I decided that hunters need to have a Huntercon, where they get together and talk best practices and have workshops and stuff.

Also, they desperately need a newsgroup or chat board.


Tom Scola - Mar 23, 2007 9:46:36 am PDT #8616 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

The more tight-knit the hunters are, the more easily they could be subverted when one of them turns. It was pretty easy for Sam to whack hunters as it is.


P.M. Marc - Mar 23, 2007 10:07:17 am PDT #8617 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Also, they desperately need a newsgroup or chat board.

Which is why I think a group of urban hunters would rule so hard.

I keep flashing back to the line in Crossroad Blues, where Dean says they know a little about a lot of things, just enough to be dangerous. How much they don't know really seems to be driving this season.

Hmm. Anticipating long thoughts on knowledge in my future.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 23, 2007 10:07:42 am PDT #8618 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Yeah, I'm thinking wekillcreepythings.net would act as a magnet for the more crafty and clairvoyant supernatural menaces that want to save time taking out numerous hunters at once.


Nutty - Mar 23, 2007 10:51:18 am PDT #8619 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

There's also the part where we don't know what kind of people most hunters are.

Are they territorial? Are they specialists (that vampire-hunter seemed to be so)? Are they sorrowing freaks working out their secret pains with violence? Are they sociopaths seeking acceptable outlets to their crazy? Do they actually mingle with white supremacists, as Agent Gotcha implied?

I think it would be cool, in a show so concerned with the road, to have an episode about the road, about Travellers and Roma and migrant workers and truck drivers and the people who don't associate the word "home" with any one place.


Theodosia - Mar 23, 2007 11:22:39 am PDT #8620 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Besides, if the hunters get organized enough, they start turning into the Watchers Council... with mullets and feedlot caps.


Holli - Mar 23, 2007 2:31:02 pm PDT #8621 of 10001
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

Besides, if the hunters get organized enough, they start turning into the Watchers Council... with mullets and feedlot caps.

Which could be entertaining, in its way, but I think I'd settle for rec.sports.hunting.cryptozoology, you know? The hunters are disorganized to the point that it's actually dangerous. Sam and Dean thought vampires were a myth, and then they meet a guy who *specializes* in them. How many other hunters are facing stuff they don't know enough about, when there's someone out there who could tell them what they need?