It looked like a screw, but I don't know why that tipped him off. Or maybe it wasn't a screw.

Joe tells me that the Marine realized that someone had taken the coverplate of the door-opening-thingy when they shouldn't have. I assume it's a military sbotage thing because it went over my head too.

I also loved all the post-Kara reactions, especially Bill Adam going through her file. I found Badger entertaining but I had a very hard time understanding him much of the time. I felt like I needed to get everyword if he was going to be speaking in metaphors and riddles and so on.

Oh, I totally saw the Lee/Sam slash possibilities. Other than that, I have to say that I am so confused about Lee these days. His scenes with Sam were great but it's hard to see where all this other stuff is coming from. I mean, I know because they are telling us, sort of, but it doesn't feel very organic.

I only saw the first five minutes of the last BSG, but I saw the Sam/Lee slash too. (Hubba.)

Not quite dead. I'm with you on the fic-reading, but I do try to hold the line at RPS or Wincest. I've read stuff I thought arose from canon and character, well-written stuff, but I just can't go there in canon.

Sibling incest, same sex or not, is a squick for me, and I don't have any particular desire to "get over it," as I've seen recommended. Parent/child is just--there's an abyss there that is truly awful for me, and I can't read that at all, it makes me physically ill. I can't divorce reality from incest, and so I seem to be reading-handicapped in that way.

Still, there's lots and lots of lovely gen, which is actually my favorite Winfic. The relationship between the boys (and their dad) is intricate and simple and complicated all at the same time, enough that just exploring it is more than adequate for me. Adding sex, while I see how it might arise from the complicated and intense emotion, seems an unnecessary strata on an already emotionally dense and layered relationship.

But that's just me. Meanwhile, I'm really trying hard NOT to read BSG spoilers, rocking and whining a bit waiting for Heroes, and restraining the bounce and squee at new SPN tomorrow night.

I don't have any particular desire to "get over it," as I've seen recommended.

WTF? Why in the hell should anyone be obligated to get over a squick? Particularly one that's also a cultural taboo? Fandom, I swear to god...

Sibling incest, same sex or not, is a squick for me, and I don't have any particular desire to "get over it," as I've seen recommended. Parent/child is just--there's an abyss there that is truly awful for me, and I can't read that at all, it makes me physically ill. I can't divorce reality from incest, and so I seem to be reading-handicapped in that way.

Bev is me. Incest just squicks me in a HUGE way.

Still, there's lots and lots of lovely gen, which is actually my favorite Winfic.

It's completely predictable, but pre-series Mary/John are some of my favorite gen stories. There's so much possibility to mine, and so much pathos in upcoming events.

The relationship between the boys (and their dad) is intricate and simple and complicated all at the same time, enough that just exploring it is more than adequate for me. Adding sex, while I see how it might arise from the complicated and intense emotion, seems an unnecessary strata on an already emotionally dense and layered relationship.

YES.

I just... I don't know. I don't see the brother love when I watch the show. I mean, I tilted my head and squinted at Faith, I think, and there it was, but it went away again. (I could buy slash, because Dean is such a ho, but not the incest.) My brain just seems to blot out the brothers part when I read the fic, and I don't know why, and I need to stop, but some of it's pretty hot.

Oh yeah, a lot of it's hot. And at least some of the sibling stuff is definitely character driven. I'll admit I've read just for the hot. But somehow it never relates to the characters on the screen--that's a different relationship, a different sort of relationship.

Which actually I do classify as brother love, deep, abiding, self-sacrificing, often bloody-minded or not-very-minded-at-all, just not brother sex.

Is this the right thread? I feel OT.

And Dana, thanks for that. I mean, I'd made up my own mind about it, but it's nice to hear someone else reinforce it.

There are some things I am uninterested in reading, no matter how talented the author. I don't mind if that makes me uncool.

One of the inexplicable things about fandom is how you have to defend what you like and don't like. I mean, it's sort of a group brought together by the fact that we're more fervent about certain things than the average TV watcher, and yet the right to personal preferences is one of those perennial arguments that goes around.

I mean, I'll encourage people to read slash, and I'll provide links to the good stuff, but ultimately, if you don't like it, you don't like it.